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    Player RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeafJohn View Post
    This same post, but with game name changed, was posted in the WoW forum.

    OP is just trolling both games as a shill for asmondgold.
    This is one of those situations where the forum I feel could use some more aggressive moderation. Not so much as to doing bans or anything like that but forcefully merging all of this person's threads into 1 single thread every time one of his fans from his other game decide to follow him here and make another of these spam/solicitation posts. I call them solicitation because IMO they feel like they're just trying to get more people to watch the stuff he posts on social media.
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    Genbe197's Avatar
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    Uh...FF14 direction is just fine.... we are fans and play for a reason. Don't need some random streamer to ruin the content we already like... doesn't make sense
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    By that logic they should hire ME as a consultant. I'm a longer time MMO veteran than him, have a lot of insight, and I actually make games.

    I mean it wouldn't happen but I'm just saying
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiros View Post
    He probably would do it for free. They really need his help especially since he's a long-time MMO veteran and has great insight into MMO design. He can help Square Enix see any potential blind spots in their new systems.
    For the japanese, it's probably nothing more than a streamer among others with subs.

    For the ads on Twitch, they chose by the number of followers/subs not by the fact that he is a regular FFXIV player.

    Many real and good FFXIV players were ignored.

    Sorry for your disillusionment.
    An advisor newbie, we've heard it all here...
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    In my opinion the best way to 'Sponsor' any streamer to advertise is by investing more money into making the game fun. If Square want to get Asmon to advertise the game more then all they need to do is add a couple new Chocobo Race Tracks.
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    Nah. Dude is a celebrity, nothing more.

    I'd match him one-to-one on hours played in MMOs. In fact, I and many others have him beat, hands down, especially since we've been playing MMOs since the dude was eight years old. He has no 'special authority' other than that he's famous. (Checks how old Zack is. Yeah. I was right. Been playing games since before he was born, and been playing MMOs since he was - wow, look at that, I was very close - nine years old.)

    If we are going to place someone in an advisory position, why not pick from the actual top players in this game? You know, people that have been around this game for ten years or so, and around gaming in general for thirty, forty years or even more. That's a smarter and more logical way to get a productive human onto an advisory board.

    Again, he's just a celebrity. It doesn't qualify him for anything at all. No one here has any idea of how he behaves on a 'task force' or how he would work in an office environment, or actually how smart the dude is, his troubleshooting and problem solving skills, his creativity, etc. His sole qualification is that he played a crapton of WoW, broadcast it, and now plays a crapton of FF.

    He's just the 2021 version of a talking head. That's it and that's all. In 1987, many of us were doing exactly what he is doing, except people didn't film and broadcast it back then. All we did is put our quarters up on the machine, say "next", and melt back into the crowd while watching someone destroy Space Harrier for an hour. Watching someone else play games is nothing special, nor is it remotely new. Only the broadcast element is new.

    People kinda lose their head over celebrities and elevate them to places they don't belong. It's why we really care what famous actors and actresses have to say about socio-political issues ... as if they have any more expertise than the next person. It's definitely part of why we regularly elect them to major political office. It's utter insanity; we don't send Tom Cruise to rescue actual hostages or recover actual stolen property, now do we? Nah, that would be a bit over the crazy-line, even for us.

    But a dude that plays video games for a living, absolutely, I am sure he knows his way around Unity or Godot or other game development tools that I won't even pretend to be aware of. I am sure Zack knows 'em tho. LMAO.

    I've met many, many celebrities over the years (lived/worked in or near Hollywood most of my life) and let me tell you... they ain't any better than regular Joes and Janes that might walk through the door. In fact, quite often they are worse, due to the size of their heads and the fact that they think they're better than others.

    Ain't saying Zack is like this; I don't know him so I couldn't say. I can say, though, that I've had many an illusion shattered by a celebrity I loved turning out to be an absolute douchebag. I certainly wouldn't 'recommend' any of them for a particular job or another without first actually knowing the person (outside of their job) so I could make a decent estimate of how good they are for the position. You can't possibly make that decision off of a celebrity's broadcast product.
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    Last edited by Breakbeat; 08-29-2021 at 10:44 PM. Reason: Expand on my point. Clean-up.
    "If you pay attention to the world, it's an amazing place. If you don't, it's whatever you think it is.” – Reggie Watts

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    Player WoW's Avatar
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    Literally the easiest forum to bait rofl.

    Now let's see what we have here.

    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Why should they hire a guy I never heard of to be an advisor on a game I play?
    Because he's more important to SE than you. Simple as that.
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    Even if they wanted to hire him, doubt they would want to match his current income, the guy makes something 1/2 mil a year from Twitch revenue alone.
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  10. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiros View Post
    He probably would do it for free. They really need his help especially since he's a long-time MMO veteran and has great insight into MMO design. He can help Square Enix see any potential blind spots in their new systems.
    Hell no. He is not smart as it may look. He opinions are safe 8n the mid bs. He started to hate on blizzard when it started to get big to do so. He jumped to ff14 as it was the popular move to do. I don't say it's wrong just not that smart.
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    Lol what? You may forget but ff14 got good after the team was forced to play wow. And look at all the garbage games we get now as they made by people that never played any games,and it shows.
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