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  1. #11
    Player Mortex's Avatar
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    Rigor Mortex
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxCh40s View Post
    I completely agree, we are most certainly treated like second class citizens when it comes to us asking for as cohesive and optimal job design as the other roles. At least the other roles are acknowledged in their complaints (minus Mch for a long time).

    Based off of past experience, Sage will be woefully underpowered and nearly unplayable in actual content if we base it off of how Astro originally released. If we base it off other jobs released, it will be massively overturned and will dominate play for the foreseeable meta until Savage Raids drop.
    My static gave me the choice too go meele or healer and in heart I’m still a healer main but I don’t have any hope. Gonna watch the class ability live letter and pray they finally listen too the community and get it right so I can enjoy healer and if not I can play reaper cause the other meele is a drg player.
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  2. #12
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    FoxCh40s's Avatar
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    Character
    Source Eldion
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mortex View Post
    I always do and they still manage too disappoint me.
    Damn if that ain't the truth.
    (4)

  3. #13
    Player
    Teno's Avatar
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    Character
    Teno Gestalt
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    More worries than expectations although it can't get worse that's for sure. I can't get off the feeling that there's a world where the job actions trailer for scholar is : new broil, new clunky fairy oGCD, new ground slam,... That would be the nail in the coffin.

    But I hope scholar gets a rework at this point. And that other healers get a serious polish, including the new sage.
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  4. #14
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    Drkdays's Avatar
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    Character
    Eternity Spellblade
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Give worgen tails!
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  5. #15
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    Liam_Harper's Avatar
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    Liam Harper
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Acece View Post
    Worst case scenario: I don't think it can get worst then stb for whm but they can surprise me.
    Oh it can certainly get worse.

    Keep in mind, some of their most recent changes involve nerfing Energy Drain to try to make SCH's use Aether to overheal more of the non-existent damage they've designed and buffing Succor of all things so it can be spammed more. This tiers raid and tome sets were riddled with more Piety than ever because they actually think we need the stat. They also still have no healer designer and most of the class design for EDW is already finished. We have had almost no communication the entire expansion and they've actually believed "Shield healer" is a thing and turned it into an identity when OT and MT for tanks was something they steered away from because it was an awful idea.

    So we have a few dps mains with little healer experience and bad ideas who believe we spam heals and need to dps less, in charge of our role right now. Let that sink in.
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    Last edited by Liam_Harper; 08-29-2021 at 08:00 PM.

  6. #16
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    Recon1o6's Avatar
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    Character
    Avarnia Corthal
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    I'm expecting to be disappointed. Does that work?

    I don't believe SE will have changed their tune despite all the feedback and evidence that points to their "only heals" centric ideas being at odds with the game.

    They don't look at feedback here on the official forums. They acknowledge reddit frequently for the art and memes but when it comes to job design etc they bury their heads in the sand
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  7. #17
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    SweetPete's Avatar
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    Character
    Princess- Princess
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 100
    I use to main healer and just like you guys I was begging and pleading for healers to be a bit more exciting. They definitely lost the oomph as expansions went on. Now I happily main summoner and won’t be going back to the healer role.

    Unfortunately Yoshi P and his dev team have been absolutely clear on where they want healers to be. It’s unfortunate for you guys. I really hope you guys get a little of what you want. I really do.
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  8. #18
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    SpiralMask's Avatar
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    Character
    Aubrenard Sondraix
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    hopes:
    -reworking the healer role entirely to address the large amount of redundancy in healers' kits and their design running counter to the game as a whole (being a good healer means you have less to do, and the options to do are soulcrushingly boring); making WHM more aesthetically interesting than "everything is just holy now", actually giving SCH something to do with their guage, giving AST SOMETHING in exchange for their triple lobotomy (card effects and customizations gone, time spells gone, and now half of their healing kit (nocturnal sect) gone). yknow, addressing the horrific downtime issues the healers face currently. it doesnt need to be dps, it just needs to be something actually interesting to fill that time.
    -means to address lack of class story going forward
    -means to address them butting up against the soft 'action limit', either with non-mandatory options for condensed combos (as with PVP), toggle skills (like cold fog -> white death or phantom flurry for BLU, could easily be applied to SMN's trance/deathflare, bahamut/akh morn, and pheonix/judgment etc), or some other possibility so that they can safely add new skills to keep classes interesting and unique from each other without needing to gut and re-organize the levelling skills for every single job every expansion.
    -more love for BLU (haha who am i kidding that ship sank before reaching the harbor)

    expectations:
    -no changes, or even worse another "we know that you are suffering, please continue to do so. we did this on purpose."
    -sage will look shiny in the sizzle reel but play just as boring as all the others, and have zero lore associated with the class due to only getting 10 levels and then role quests forevermore (reaper, DNC, GNB all in the same boat there as well).
    -other classes will be largely the same as previous with a new capstone ability, and even worse levelling issues since the same number of buttons have to be spread over yet another 10 levels (look forward to NIN not getting it's first AoE until level 50 now or some equal level of suffering)--excepting maybe MNK since the bigger part of it's rework is slated for 6.0, and possibly SMN since they've mentioned it needing work from it's current 'piano' iteration.
    (2)
    Last edited by SpiralMask; 08-30-2021 at 06:44 AM.

  9. #19
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Character
    Deceptus Keelon
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Can't wait for them to make our main filler nuke refresh our DoT so we only have to cast the dot a single time. (heavy sarcasm)

    Here's my honest hope:

    They realize that healers need to be more of a support role instead of a healing role.

    Feint / troubador / tactician / Shield Samba gets removed from Physical DPS and given to Healers in the form of Protect

    Addle gets removed from Magical DPS and given to Healers in the form of Shell

    Healers get group buffs in the vein of Bravery (physical DPS up) and Faith (Magical DPS up)
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 08-30-2021 at 07:14 AM.

  10. #20
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    ASkellington's Avatar
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    Character
    Xynnel Valeroyant
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    What I hope is better identies for all the healers.

    What I expect? SGE destroys w/e SCH has left and AST either destroys WHM cause its that much better or removal of Noct and nothing else.

    As for WHM... who? Cause I swear SE doesn't believe it exists.
    (3)
    I'm tired of being told to wait for post-patches and expansions for fixes and increased healing requirements that are never coming. Healers are not fun in all forms of content like all jobs should be, they're replaced by tanks and dps due to low healing requirements and their dps kit is small for 0 reason, when in the past we had more options and handled things just fine. I refuse to play healer in roulette come DT. I refuse to heal EXs, I refuse to go into Savage, and I am boycotting Ultimate.

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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