I hope we never see a system of essences or lost abilities again

[Ayuhra]

I don't completely hate the system but it definitely needs to be streamlined and iterated on before we see it again. For starters it needs to be WAY MORE CLEAR how and where you can get specific lost actions/essences. People shouldn't have look up the abilities they need on a site outside the game.

Im sorry for being the a**hole for pointing it out, but regular 60-90min DR normal is not an issue of essences but rather an issue of the general playerbase in that content on your datacenter having doodoo playing skills and / or treating it with similar attention to Praetorium.

No essences or actions fix people dying to common mechanics over and over again.

No, it's an issue of essences. I'm on the same data center.

I've never seen a 90 minute run but I've had runs being kinda close to an hour. The overwhelming majority of the time it's not a wipefest, some bosses just drag on and become damage sponges due to lack of dps essences.

[Burmecia]

I am the last person to know anything concrete about Bozja, period, but this sort of chasing of some old school mmo vibe Bozja and Eureka (supposedly, maybe) have been have turned me away from relics completely. I do not want content like that, period. I play modern mmo because FFXIV especially has been the beast which showed me how much I actually dislike the old school mmo shenanigans.

Sure ARR relic and Anima weapon were tedious to put together, but you bought the stuff you needed with tomes or GC seals you accumuate anyway as byproduct of all sorts of other activities. Once in a blue moon you did some FATEs. I take that 100% over running around map build up with leftover assets and doing raid two times the size of Alliance raid and half the brainpower on player side.

My roommate has bothered with both Eureka and Bozja and I have funded her Cerberus mount grinding project with no small amount of GIL, and her utter frustration with that content is only making me think I not have chosen wrong.
(rant about stuff i know nothing about finished.)

[Ranaku]

Well, there is an really easy solution to all your problems. Get friends. Since you can choose your friends you can choose people that match your level of skill. Then run with these friends your prefered content and enjoy the feeling of never having to deal with random players again.

Or...use the partyfinder tool. It's not that hard. Search people there, if they don't perform as you want them to then just kick them after the run. Also not that hard.

So my hot take on this issue is: If you don't want to put the work in to get a good run together you deserve to suffer for your own poor choices. The system isn't wrong. It gets people what they need, the clear no matter the cost (which is time in this case). Essences are just on top of that. Delubrum isn't harder cause we have essences. Delubrum is easier cause essences exist but would be still challenging even without essences. I don't believe SE made Delubrum harder just cause there are essences which make it easier, it was always meant as challenging content even for "low tier" players.

If you can't deal with that stop being a crying antisocial forum user and try to make some friends or a party of all those who constantly cry about stuff. So the stream of salty tears and essences can carry you through the raid in mere seconds.

[OskarXCI]

You can buy the fragments from the Market Board.

You ever wondered why different elemental sprites spawns depending on the weather? Hint: They drop fragments. Go kill them.

I often end up with more fragments than needed. It's not that hard.

[KDSilver]

No, lost action and essences are fine. It's great to be allowed to be creative with skill in a side content since PVE raids are so rigids.
I agree it shouldn't be consumable. It would make it less tedious.

[MilkieTea]

While you can get a lot of Fragments that way, the actions in Caution, Igenuity (which has swift) and Violence frags do not really speed up DR runs.

What you actually need are Skill (from non-magitek mobs in Section I), Awakening (from non-magitek mobs in Section II) and Supersition (CLL).

While they don't speed up the runs, they're an easy way to provide beneficial skills that could otherwise help. Cure and Cure 3 and Lost Shell drop from Z1, Banish, Spellforge and Steelsting drop from Z2, and Focus drops from Z3. These all are beneficial not only in DR, but in CLL (Spellforge specifically that I can remember) and in CEs and FATEs.

Edit: Also, Focus will provide a direct aid in speeding up DR runs by increasing the potency of weaponskills. being able to cure yourself and others allows for more dps overall.

[Iscah]

I don't completely hate the system but it definitely needs to be streamlined and iterated on before we see it again. For starters it needs to be WAY MORE CLEAR how and where you can get specific lost actions/essences. People shouldn't have look up the abilities they need on a site outside the game.

This.

You need to fight the right monsters, see which fragments they drop, see which actions/essences you get when they're appraised, and then consult the cache to see what they actually do.

Plus, the monsters that drop fragments aren't furthering anything else. You don't get EXP, you don't get mettle, you're not unlocking CEs. The split between "fight enemy A to further objective X, fight enemy B for objective Y" just makes it feel like whatever you do, you're neglecting the other thing.

Maybe it's "easy" to farm fragments. Maybe it doesn't take "that much time". But it's still time you have to put into doing something dull and repetitive just to prepare for something else, and for me that's the quickest way to make me give up on something altogether.

[kaynide]

I would have preferred some kind of permanent unlockable one could purchase with the essences. And make a large variety to get some truly crazy custom builds/meta like you can find in other MMOs, even if it’s only in Bozja.

Make it very simple where 25 essence A and 100 essence B unlock ability C forever.

…then make the essences drop from relevant things.. like heal/raise related would drop from healer/support mobs. Maybe fire/burst damage from that red chocobo, etc.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

I don't completely hate the system but it definitely needs to be streamlined and iterated on before we see it again. For starters it needs to be WAY MORE CLEAR how and where you can get specific lost actions/essences. People shouldn't have look up the abilities they need on a site outside the game.



No, it's an issue of essences. I'm on the same data center.

I've never seen a 90 minute run but I've had runs being kinda close to an hour. The overwhelming majority of the time it's not a wipefest, some bosses just drag on and become damage sponges due to lack of dps essences.

Sure, maybe it isn't a wipefest, but actions & essences are merely multipliers. The basics of dealing high damage are still the same - opener, rotation, using abilities when they come off cooldown and riding the GCD timer are still integral to actually doing damage. To say the issue is once again mostly essences and not poor gameplay strikes me very odd, but if it helps to cope, you do you.

[Hanayumi]

Kinda wish they made them bluemage-esque, like once you find or learn you just have it for good and can toss it into the lost action hotbar kind of deal.