Name something more immersion breaking than the new ishgard glamour

[Evergrey]

I know this is an old thread but I'm just gonna reply to the topic of immersion breaking.

If someone plays FFXIV for the immersion I'd say there are better games for that.
I've come to accept that FFXIV will never be as immersive to me as it used to be back in ARR, before all the collabs, fashion & mounts that clearly was never meant for the FFXIV setting.
I play other games when I wanna be immersed in the game world and then I play others when I just wanna "play a game" and have fun.
Don't get stuck in one game and then expect to get everything from it.
Expand and play/do different things for different goals.

[Iscah]

Ok, i'm throwing my two cents into this one again. Modern clothes are NOT Immersion Breaking, FF14 is NOT pure fantasy and NEVER has been. The Garleans have tech far more advanced than we do irl as well as trains, cars (from the endwalker trailer), and much much more, the Allagans have bio engineering and androids/robots, while the Ironworks can create machines, and Ishgard has the machinist class. Hydaelyn is NOT high fantasy, EORZEA is partially High Fantasy because it's EORZEA that lacks tech currently, not the rest of the world.

The setting has jumped from high fantasy to sci-fi but neither of those require modern-looking street clothing to exist in the meanwhile.

For example, the Garlean "magitek reaper" vehicles are high-tech but in a way that feels ornate and fantastic – a thing we don't see in everyday life. Assuming Ironworks gear is Garlean fashion, that's not modern clothing either – it's closer to it than the medieval stuff, but it's not something you'd see someone wearing in the real world either.

On the other hand, the car mount feels out of place in a way that the reaper doesn't, and the modern fashion gear feels out of place in a way that the sci-fi gear doesn't.

It's about wanting to see something "not from real life" more than strictly medieval fantasy.

At the same time, it's particularly jarring to see modern clothes in medieval-themed Ishgard even if they might suit a level of technology found elsewhere.

[Fenrir95]

The setting has jumped from high fantasy to sci-fi but neither of those require modern-looking street clothing to exist in the meanwhile.

For example, the Garlean "magitek reaper" vehicles are high-tech but in a way that feels ornate and fantastic – a thing we don't see in everyday life. Assuming Ironworks gear is Garlean fashion, that's not modern clothing either – it's closer to it than the medieval stuff, but it's not something you'd see someone wearing in the real world either.

On the other hand, the car mount feels out of place in a way that the reaper doesn't, and the modern fashion gear feels out of place in a way that the sci-fi gear doesn't.

It's about wanting to see something "not from real life" more than strictly medieval fantasy.

At the same time, it's particularly jarring to see modern clothes in medieval-themed Ishgard even if they might suit a level of technology found elsewhere.

Ishgard is medieval themed in architecture and political structure only, the Skysteel Factory in Ishagrd can rival the Ironworks and DOES rival the Ironworks in fact, keep in mind Ishgard has been separated from eorzea, and by extension, the ironworks for years, so that is also another misconception about the game. FF14 doesn't jump between them as you say it does, that indicates a lack of consistency, and there isn't one, FF14 has several kinds of tech as well as pure magic which creates the APPEARANCE of jumping between Sci Fi and High Fantasy, when in reality it's really not. If you never want to see things from real life in your game then don't ever play games, violence happens in real life, political issues happen in real life, death happens in real life, romance happens in real life, everything you see in a game is inspired by something in real life. I do get what you're saying, it's just not a good argument for more modern looking items being "immersion" breaking, because if you accept the fact Allagan Tech has made holographic screens, then having a simple car is easy as fuck.

[Hanayumi]

Aloy in Genshin :P

[Iscah]

Ishgard is medieval themed in architecture and political structure only, the Skysteel Factory in Ishagrd can rival the Ironworks

Technology level has nothing to do with how the residents dress – which is very definitely medieval for the most part, and the Skysteel technicians don't dress in "modern" clothing but the ARR gatherer vest-and-shirt. Joye is in a peasant dress; Rostnsthal in his piratey getup. Hilda dresses modern, but she seems an oddity too next to her Brume friends.

Overall, they don't need to dress modern to have modern technology. The innovations in machinery and taste in fashion are not linked.

[Fenrir95]

Technology level has nothing to do with how the residents dress – which is very definitely medieval for the most part, and the Skysteel technicians don't dress in "modern" clothing but the ARR gatherer vest-and-shirt. Joye is in a peasant dress; Rostnsthal in his piratey getup. Hilda dresses modern, but she seems an oddity too next to her Brume friends.

Overall, they don't need to dress modern to have modern technology. The innovations in machinery and taste in fashion are not linked.

But it DOES have everything to do with telling us how realistic something is within the world. Garlemald has Trains, Flying Machines, and over all insanely advanced technology, while the Allagans built an entire moon out of spaceships and had.. oh yeah had actual space ships themselves, while the skysteel factory built a fucking robot (Machinist level 80 Ability). So if that is the level of technology we're dealing with a simple car or bike really isn't that hard for anyone, even Eorzea, to make, and if we follow that logic a little further, is a leather jacket/Jeans REALLY that immersion breaking? From where I stand the people making this claim are just clinging onto a high fantasy misconception.

[Iscah]

So if that is the level of technology we're dealing with a simple car or bike really isn't that hard for anyone, even Eorzea, to make, and if we follow that logic a little further, is a leather jacket/Jeans REALLY that immersion breaking? From where I stand the people making this claim are just clinging onto a high fantasy misconception.

Yes, because technology level has nothing to do with fashion. they could progress from medieval to sci-fi and bypass modern style altogether.

My issue is the disconnect of dropping modern-style clothes into a setting that previously had a different style, with no evolution inbetween.

And fantasy does not strictly mean medieval fantasy, but something other than modern daily life fantasy. As I have said several times already.

I'm not saying the game needs to stick to medieval, I'm saying there should be consistency to the fashion found in a location.

[Lunalepsy]

Protip: You cannot.

SE, it's time we address the issue that keeps getting worse and worse every patch.

Every patch it seems like my sub money is being wasted on new stuff that just keeps breaking my immersion every time I try to get into this game! I remember why I raid log now, and it's not because of the lack of content, but because of all the immersion breaking stuff that I keep seeing!

I can take the chocobo costume, all the cat girls in school uniforms and 2b legging, but this new glamour just crossed the line! Why adding MODERN CLOTHING to a FANTASY game?! A fanny pack??? Sneakers??? Really??

People keep praising this game for the story, but how can anyone get immersed in it when more and more immersion breaking glamour keeps getting added?!

SE, please give us an option to hide other players glamours and please stop making the problem even worse than it currently is!

I'll wear those lovely glamours in front of you.

[Illmaeran]

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People wearing modern-style clothing in a Japanese game heavily influenced by popular culture is one of the last things that ruins my immersion. ironically, it can serve to enhance it as it makes the game seem even more like a fictional MOJRPG that fits my imaginary Waiting-To-Be-Warped-Into-The-Game Isekai fantasy.

I understand where you're coming from though; I prefer to only play on RP servers when playing an MMO so immersing myself into the world is important. It's a bit different with XIV though since FF games tend to have a mix of both the fantastical and technological that's both harmonious and jarring at the same time. It's difficult for me to reconcile the insanely high technology of the Allagans, fairly high technology of the Garleans, and the medieval tech of the Eorzean nations being all in one world. The best I can do is give it up to being a game and enjoy what forms of immersion I'm able to find while playing.

[Illmaeran]

Didn't you know that the Dragoon armour is imbued with magics to keep you warm, especially the exposed belly?

<presses seat warming button> I sure did!