To all the LGTBQ players

[Bellsong]

Whew, if people are upset about this thread, just wait until they learn about the Mardi Gras parade float from 2019...

[Wavaryen]

but but final fantasy is never toxic tho its only wow /s

Eh lets just blame the wow outcasts.

[magtuired]

It always makes me laugh when people think that Japan has absolutely no LGBT people and that these discussions aren't taking place in Japanese language FFXIV spaces. -and korean and chinese ones for that matter!

Anyway I come from a conservative small town so I have a pretty thick skin and when people ask me why I have "bisexual" in my search info, I just reply I know who I am and I refuse to associate with someone who is going to derail a raid because I mentioned my boyfriend bought me a glam in casual convo (which has happened). People who claim to not want LGBT issues brought up so frequently sure love making conversations about it lol.

As for favourite moments. The fight Thancred had to protect Ryne from Ran'jit brought me to tears and I think is meaningful for anyone who has struggled in becoming a good Father figure to someone.

[KayRadley]

"i DoNt LiKe ThE gAyS"

"Sir, this is a Wendy's."

[WMK01]

Thanks, OP. Personally, I don't see a lot of hate in-game, but forums are always a relative cesspool; it's disappointing. I know this is cliché, but people have always been scared of whatever they don't understand and they usually react to fear with verbal or physical violence. Some people are unreachable for a variety of reasons, but I believe that more and more people everyday are coming around to the idea that everyone should be able to choose their sexual preferences freely and without fear of repercussions, and that gender is now and has always been a social construct and a result of sociocultural influences throughout an individual's life.

As far as outwardly LGBTQ+ characters in the game, I'd love love LOVE to see more. It's nice having a character or characters you can identify with in that way, and it's all too rare.

[Andy_T93]

Thanks TC the truth is this game (as far as I have found) is a pretty welcoming place and the vast majority of people are normal and chill. This place is a bit like an echo chamber it seems like there is alot of anti LGBT voices. But the reality is that this is just the dying gasps or irrelevant people banging their pots and pans as they fade into obscurity and irrelevance. Their time is over they have lost and are just now in their death throes. Best thing to do is just laugh at their sad little lives. People who have that much nastiness in them are never happy people. They are miserable, pity them if you will, as society progresses and leaves them in the dust where they belong

[GrimGale]

So we should start advertising for political parties in here as well? What about race-baiting? That's always a riot.

Or, OR! Hear me out... we stick to talking about the game?

Lemme just make a thread and switch LGBT to White people and see how that goes.

But we ARE talking about the game. We are talking about its characters, depictions of non heteronormative love and the game's player base.

And why not make said threat? It is definitiely a contentious topic, but race representation is a valid topic.

[Fatch38]

again one of those topic.... you know even if you try to do something positive, it's not better than the opposite thread : both of them doesn't belong here

like i said in another topic, no offence but we don't care about your gender or sexuality (you do whatever you want i'm cool with it), what is bothering is when a community ask for more depiction in a game for the sake of political correctness (instead of just doing a good character in the first place, and like IRL we shouldn't care about its sexuality)

[Karthunk]

again one of those topic.... you know even if you try to do something positive, it's not better than the opposite thread : both of them doesn't belong here

like i said in another topic, no offence but we don't care about your gender or sexuality (you do whatever you want i'm cool with it), what is bothering is when a community ask for more depiction in a game for the sake of political correctness (instead of just doing a good character in the first place, and like IRL we shouldn't care about its sexuality)

Pretty much.

The old saying "don't let the camel put its head in the tent" applies.

[RyuDragnier]

again one of those topic.... you know even if you try to do something positive, it's not better than the opposite thread : both of them doesn't belong here

like i said in another topic, no offence but we don't care about your gender or sexuality (you do whatever you want i'm cool with it), what is bothering is when a community ask for more depiction in a game for the sake of political correctness (instead of just doing a good character in the first place, and like IRL we shouldn't care about its sexuality)

You gave yourself away with the "political correctness" dog whistle there. Begone troll.