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    Player CaedemSanguis's Avatar
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    Benedikta Harman
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    Moogle
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100

    Lack of pve content

    We had 3 savages and 1 ultimates, which is equivalent to 1 week + 5 days prog (I assume TEA is 1 week prog), I will round to 2 week prog

    2 week prog in Wow is 2 Mythical raids, they have 3-4 mythical raids (without even considering Heroic raids) per extension

    Why such lack of pve content ? for a MMORPG that want to become better/the #1

    (I still consider FF14 better than WOW overall, but this lack of pve content is a bit upsetting)
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    TTiscancer's Avatar
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    Hexinas Desharot
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    Phoenix
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    FF14 isn't about end-game raids ,never has been. It's side content at best, just like PvP.

    You're playing the wrong game.
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    Crowzer Bonescythe
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Why such lack of pve content ? for a MMORPG that want to become better/the #1
    Because 90% - 95% of players don't care about savages, ultimates, etc. ?

    As TTiscancer said, you should play another MMO if you want big PvE contents.
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    bearcat01's Avatar
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    Cincy Blizzard
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    Sargatanas
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    When did FFXIV Devs say they wanted to be #1? Yoshi-P said in an interview he does NOT want to be compared to WoW, and understands that FFXIV will probably never have the same number of subscribers. He’s okay with that.
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    Vel Kallor
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    Kujata
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    There is no end of PVE content to do, for example, the crafters in this expac built an ENTIRE CITY

    We went in, saw the wreckage left by the War, by the time we were done Ishgard had not only been Restored, but a new player housing district had been created.

    I have never ever had the chance to be part of something this epic and absolutely uplifting.. ( God alone knows we need a few things to make us smile and laugh at the moment...we will be locked down till October and each day is harder than the last....)

    FF 14 isnt about raids and savages alone.
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    Last edited by VelKallor; 08-12-2021 at 09:31 PM.

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    Leih'to Molkoh
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    Zodiark
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Wait....Savage and Ultimates are the only PvE content?
    I thought that dungeons, EX trials, Bozja, hunt trains and even treasure maps were all PvE content.
    Did I misunderstand what PvE means?
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    Player Wavaryen's Avatar
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    Teladi Bishop
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 90
    They don't focus on raiding as the main content for end game.


    Becomes one of the top dog mmorpgs.



    The age of raid or die mmorpgs are done. Not focus on raiding as end game content has saved this game.
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    Larirawiel's Avatar
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 100
    FF14 ist not a "raid-or-die"-game.


    Cheers
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  9. #9
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    Ea Sin
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    This expansion was an exception. It's usually 3 tiers and 2 ultimate. Might even become 3 ultimate with the wow crowd rolling in. We'll have to see.
    I also don't really know how you're calculating prog time? Going to assume you're talking in time played or at least entire full days of prog. And that's if you're in the upper tier of players. You're also forgetting other pve content like eureka, gangos stuff, deep dungeons, extreme fights.

    But regardless, FF14 is not aiming to beat wow, the director stated so very clearly. They also don't want you to spend all your time playing FF14 so they make sure that the endgame content is bite-sized and gives you your time back to play other games. Hell, the devs would be more than happy for you to play wow during your downtime, they do.
    On top of that FF14's definition of endgame is much broader than wow. No more pve content to go through? Pick your poison > solo deep dungeons? That's potentially weeks of prog. Old content min-ilvl no echo? leveling all your jobs? crafting/gathering? housing? chocobo breading? Relic grinds? glam? mounts? minions? BLU raiding and arena? and the worst part is that I'm sure I'm forgetting some. Not to mention that you might want to farm ultimate for all the weapons or savage for BiS on multiple jobs?

    There's a lot to do. I've been disappointed with the content this patch, we were missing quite more than just 1 ultimate. And I've voiced as such on these very forums, but the idea that they would need to double the content of high-level raids to "compete" against wow is misplaced imo.
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    Last edited by EaMett; 08-12-2021 at 10:33 PM.

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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    You have 4 expansions of PvE content and in a few months another one. This game does not lack PvE content at all. And don't get me started on crafting as well as relic weapon/armor grinds.

    Plus most of the old trial and raid content can be done rather easily in PUGs.

    If anything I think the game lacks in the PvP scene if anything.
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