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  1. #11
    Player
    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sove92 View Post
    No, they simply disagreed with you and you didn't like that, so you salute the post that says neither yes or no. This is a discussion board, not an echo chamber.
    The end part pretty much says it's not ideal (restructuring the story to fit it making sense, would likely be retcon of some element), but I leave them with what I think are all the options and the outcomes and an opening to respond- which gives them the opportunity to say "well I prefer this, or I think that we should change it anyways".

    Others are allowed to say no, but while showing my opinion I left it up to him to respond further into the discussion. Just making sure you're not trying to say I simply said neither yes nor no.. Like it was a sort of non-committal / no-opinion post.. My hand was clear by the fact I was part of the feedback that added all these restrictions in the first place, ones that I stand by still, but I also don't believe in giving false choices or saying things are impossible.
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  2. #12
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    Izar_Chillen's Avatar
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    Jhuno Whatt
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    Spriggan
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I would like to see , if anything were to be altered without too much neutering , is a re-write of Nero's whinge about Cid getting all the upvotes in the Garlean Empire subbreddit and Cid getting preferential treatment from the Moderator Van Belsar.
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  3. #13
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    laurtias's Avatar
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    Character
    Wren Clarke
    World
    Malboro
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    White Mage Lv 90
    This is kind of what I had to do as a sprout who started playing when Heavensward was current content. My sprout friend and I queued up for Praetorium in the duty roulette with a few veteran friends from our FC in voice chat. We were so lost because we had been pushed from cutscene to cutscene while the party ran ahead. Unfortunately, the result was that the whole thing lost its "epicness" as the conclusion of A Realm Reborn. Watching the cutscenes after the fact has the same disconnect sadly.
    Personally, I'm happy with the way things are currently set up since it's an easy Exp farm for alt classes and the sprouts get a good experience.
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  4. #14
    Player Lanadra's Avatar
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    Alessia Adaka
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    Moogle
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Andromadous View Post
    Look I get having to make people slow down for new players to see the story. Is it possible to have all the forced cutscenes viewed by the new players after the dungeon is over? saving the time of veteran players needed to help new player? Win, win for everyone right?
    Sure. But then you can also give up that massive XP drop you get as compensation for all those cutscenes, for that time spent.

    Can't have it both ways.
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    Last edited by Lanadra; 08-07-2021 at 09:02 AM.

  5. #15
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    Hyperia's Avatar
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    The devs have already said that they are replacing castrum and praeotium in the not too distant future.
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  6. #16
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    TeraRamis's Avatar
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    Tiffah Lockhart
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    You can also just... Not run it
    Except, of course, that a lot of us feel like we're forced into it every day for the stupid tomestones.
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  7. #17
    Player
    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    The devs have already said that they are replacing castrum and praeotium in the not too distant future.
    I was like "oh really?" so I just thought to share the source:

    Millenium: So, will Castrum Meridianum and the Praetorium see changes too, whether skippable cutscenes or alternatives?

    Yoshi-P: "I do apologise but we will not be reworking these two dungeons just yet. We believe minor fixes to these dungeons are not feasible, and it will be necessary to either completely remake them as four-player dungeons or incorporate the Trust system so that they can be cleared on a solo basis.

    Although we didn't have the costs reserved for the rework on this occassion, we do plan to work on them at some point. Please wait a little longer for this."
    Source: https://us.millenium.gg/news/19660.html
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  8. #18
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    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TeraRamis View Post
    Except, of course, that a lot of us feel like we're forced into it every day for the stupid tomestones.
    No one is forced to do it (except new people who don't skip). I've done that roulette less than 5 times since the cutscene changes.
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  9. #19
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    DBriggs304's Avatar
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    Fu Soya
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    No one is forced to do it (except new people who don't skip). I've done that roulette less than 5 times since the cutscene changes.
    I'm so used to it, I don't even notice...and its always interesting to see new players do it. My Prae earlier tonight consisted of 6 sprouts. Us vets equipped a weaker weapon and let them "run it". It was actually quite fun. Took us way longer during the Ultima fight.
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  10. #20
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    Juun's Avatar
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    Aimi Yume
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    I like Prae, let's me catch up on videos, learn a new language and I have had many fun conversations during these cutscenes with other people while we were all waiting.
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