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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    "I need to kill Chaos"

    "I'm here to kill Chaos"

    "Where is Chaos"

    Oh and Awha, we don't agree much, but I sorely miss crowd control in MMOs. I was an enchanter in EQ. But I don't think they belong in the current MMO mindset, unfortunately. That's probably the one thing that would make me jump to a new game in a heartbeat, though.
    See I can get that my friends feel the same crowd control was for when we had no lives as my friends put it. That slow pace would be a strict contrast from what fits into the pacing of current MMO's. Though while I agree I do think having it peppered throughout the game would not be so bad. When I was playing classic I had a blast with doing using crowd control in both classic and tbc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    See I can get that my friends feel the same crowd control was for when we had no lives as my friends put it. That slow pace would be a strict contrast from what fits into the pacing of current MMO's. Though while I agree I do think having it peppered throughout the game would not be so bad. When I was playing classic I had a blast with doing using crowd control in both classic and tbc.
    Way way back in the day when we were all sprouts in Brayflox, the big dragon on the second boss needed to have Repose/Sleep used on it so the team could focus down the little dragon before it killed Brayflox. I remember a BLM quest that uses Sleep, too.

    I think modern MMOs could do it two ways. Either have a slower pace with harder-hitting mobs that tend to attack in groups to make crowd control necessary like old school, or maintain the faster pace but have crowd control centered around locking down mobs that would have attacks/debuffs that could result in a wipe if they aren't countered. CC would need to be a required role with encounters designed to make it necessary. Or if they couldn't do that, give CC other functions besides damage. Back in my EQ days if there wasn't something to mez (very rare), I also hasted, handled party mana regen, and debuffed to support the party.

    I think what I *really* miss is good old support. That's why I chose the healer role in this game. And why I dislike that we don't have enough to do in our role and must step into dps. I don't mind not healing the entire fight. I just want to be a real support class the entire fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    I for one if I had to pick something I know people will call me crazy I do wish they would design dungeons around the use of CC and incorporate mechanics like having a dps be forced to kite a group of mobs around or something. In short I wish dungeon design took job function and utility into question, even though this would push a meta comp I would be okay with that.

    I get this is a bad idea and would suck but yeah I am weird like that.

    I wish dedicated non-healing support classes were more of a common thing again.
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    FFXIV - 1.0 classic servers (before the meteor) should happen. I think I want it, and I do.

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    I do agree that overall I would love to see classic support roles but people would complain about "da meta" so I doubt we will ever see classic support roles cause make them too weak no one will want them make them too strong and they would be madanatory by the community at large.
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    Since we all appear to be asking for ridiculous things here:

    Permanent Death

    You die in-game, you start another character.

    That's sure to weed out the risk-takers, the incompetent and .... hey, where did everybody go?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Since we all appear to be asking for ridiculous things here:

    Permanent Death

    You die in-game, you start another character.

    That's sure to weed out the risk-takers, the incompetent and .... hey, where did everybody go?
    I mean I could get behind a permanent death hardcore server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    I mean I could get behind a permanent death hardcore server.
    The only way I could see it happen is if that hardcore server had nobody except hardcore players and no ability to queue up for anything outside the players on that server. The daily Roulettes could literally be murder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    The only way I could see it happen is if that hardcore server had nobody except hardcore players and no ability to queue up for anything outside the players on that server. The daily Roulettes could literally be murder.
    Bona-fide salt min and rage gold. I could see some juicy stories on the forums and reddit. Now I really want this.
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    Open world pvp hardcore server, I want to watch the Livestream. I do not want to ever put a toe into it though lol. Leave boost potions for the easiest money ever.... (But also entirely ruin the concept XD).
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    I see that a question I put earlier has been dodged or ignored.

    You need to get to Porta Pretoria from Limsa. No aetheryte crystal..so HOW do you get there?

    Walk?
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