Is Zenos Zodiark?

[JeanneOrnitier]

Zenos taking over Zenos? o_o Seven hells...

lmao you knew what I meant. All these Z names mixing me up.

[DaemonInazuma]

I've been having this theory about zenos after 5.55 of the scream and the mention of a dreamer. First, If you look up the FFX anima cinematic and listen to the scream, it sounds eerily familiar to the scream at the end of Zenos's cutscene. Here are some links:

Anima Cinematic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JudM8-EgFio

Zenos Scream
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugxy7hmknzCfZle_7RV4AaABCQ

Next, here is a link to Seymour Guado's wiki:

https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Seymour_Guado

Also, an excerpt from Seymour's personality:

"Due to his harsh and lonely upbringing, Seymour has nihilistic views on life. When confronted he drops the pretenses and reveals his true nature as an arrogant and cruel man. He has feelings for Summoner Yuna, whom he proposes to, but much of this attraction is due to a desire to gain her powers, so that he can become the next Sin.

Seymour does not hesitate to kill anyone who stands in the way of his objectives, rationalizing that by murdering them, he has saved them from the pain of life. Though he is undoubtedly evil-natured, much of his malice stems from the trauma he suffered in his childhood. The Guado considered his birth a heresy and he had to witness his mother turn into a fayth."

Zenos's Wiki:

https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Zenos_yae_Galvus

Does this all sound familiar? Seymour's story is Zenos's story.

This now makes me wonder if Anima in FF14 is Zenos's mother, the dreamer, and that it is his Reaper's stand instead of a voidsent. It could explain why Varis despised Zenos as well due to Emet-Selch killing his wife to make Zenos attached to her soul from the Underworld.

We've seen Emet-Selch commit these experiments with Vauthry and a Lightwarden.

[GoldStarz]

Zenos taking over Zenos? o_o Seven hells...

Technically that already happened at the end of Shadowbringers, so I don't expect a repeat performance lol

[Neoyoshi]

idk, just a thought I had after watching the epilogue of 5.3. Always wondered why Fandaniel is so loyal to Zenos but that might explain it.

Any lore buffs wanna tell me why I'm right/wrong?

Like most Ascians, Fandaniel sees Zenos as another means to an end for a Ascian to take advantage of. Also he's one of the only overlords that isn't actually loyal to Zodiark. Fandanniel just wants everything to disappear; Zodiark wants to restore their source star.

So Zenos is just Zenos; Zodiark on the otherhand, well, my theory is that Zodiark inhabits the Moon we are going to in 6.0

[Stepjam]

The following is all assuming you are ok with spoilers/are current.

No, Zenos is just an abnormally powerful man who managed to get himself an artificial echo. If it weren't for the experiments he did to get that, he would have died at the end of Stormblood when he cut his throat and that would have been that. Besides, it's Elidibus who is Zodiark. Or at least Zodiark's core. Makes me wonder if Zodiark can even be sentient anymore.

[KageTokage]

I think the reason for why he's abnormally powerful is the lingering question in light of the revelation that he's been having dreams about the Final Days even before he got his artificial echo.

It could just mean he inherited an exceptionally strong soul (The fact that he can perceive a soul's "color" was something noted as being rare even amongst the Ancients), but it's also suggested he may have been somehow tampered with by Emet Selch.

[SannaR]

It does seem as Emet managed to do something. What that something is we don't know. Unless there is a hint to it in the other languages. We also don't know what being the great grandson of an unsundered means.

[Rannie]

I think the reason for why he's abnormally powerful is the lingering question in light of the revelation that he's been having dreams about the Final Days even before he got his artificial echo.

It could just mean he inherited an exceptionally strong soul (The fact that he can perceive a soul's "color" was something noted as being rare even amongst the Ancients), but it's also suggested he may have been somehow tampered with by Emet Selch.

Unless he inherited the ability to see a soul's color from you know... His great grandfather..... Was he always able to see the color though or did that happen after becoming a resonant?

[Tensaihime]

Besides, it's Elidibus who is Zodiark. Or at least Zodiark's core. Makes me wonder if Zodiark can even be sentient anymore.

Now I’m starting to wonder how Zodiark is doing, too. Will he even be capable of whatever Zenos wants from him? Will he be totally unpredictable in his actions, to the detriment of both allies and enemies -assuming they can get him to do anything in the first place? (If they hadn’t spent so much time establishing him as an important part of the MSQ and lore, I’d wonder if he’d just pull an Alexander and nope out, maybe even taking Zenos with him, leaving us to deal with whatever mess Fandaniel manages to stir up.)

[geekgirl101]

I've long suspected that Emet-Selch raised Zenos with the intention of moulding him into a conduit for Zodiark so that Zodiark could be awakened within him but failed. It's also known that Emet-Selch could tamper with unborn babies and change them as he did with Vauthry. Fan'daniel picked up something from Zenos when he revealed a recurring dream of the final days and mumbled something about Emet-Selch being involved. Lore also dictates Zodiark as a greedy primal that demands living souls in order to fulfil peoples' wishes and coincidentally Fan'daniel is training Zenos as a reaper who reaps souls, this further adds to my suspicions that there will be some connection between Zenos and Zodiark perhaps as a living extension of Zodiark with the sole purpose to feed and destroy.