So, a lottery system and a divide between FC and solo wards, eh?

[NanaWiloh]

After careful thought ya, would need it too be one tenant with a 1 character per world restritction.

[Almagnus1]

first of all, of course not, I'm not making suggestions for a game that will make it worse for my fellow players.

second all, what do that has to do with anything?

You're still blaming the victim....

This is his way of deflecting questions or criticization throw at him; a strategy of deflecting.
Many posters here had a debate with him, he always use this method to avoid question he cant answer or something clearly put him in odd.
Pick something not important and just stick to it.

Hooray... more misgendering >.>

I think you should keep demand that apology

#Apology2Milkie

Only once they understand why they are wrong.

Say its time we get back on topic...the steam has been released some tension got out. Back to discussing housing..

Yes, the two minutes hate has ended.

[MilkieTea]

I think you should keep demand that apology

#Apology2Milkie

I even helped out by apologizing first! Even when I know that even when taken out of context I did nothing wrong, I decided hey, maybe I should just apologize anyways, because I know how it sucks to have others take what you say out of context to try to twist it (despite the fact that that was clearly not what I was doing.)

And they’ve still decided “nope! no apology from me! Im right theyre wrong BLAHLBALAHSBALWJE”

[Almagnus1]

I even helped out by apologizing first! Even when I know that even when taken out of context I did nothing wrong, I decided hey, maybe I should just apologize anyways, because I know how it sucks to have others take what you say out of context to try to twist it (despite the fact that that was clearly not what I was doing.)

And they’ve still decided “nope! no apology from me! Im right theyre wrong BLAHLBALAHSBALWJE”

You edited the quote and the editorialized it giving something taken out of context completely new context that was not what was originally intended... then proceeded to QQ about how you were somehow in the right and did nothing wrong. Spare me your theatrics and false apologies.

[Almagnus1]

So before getting into this, for the scope of this post I consider a legitimate FC to be one with more than 4 members, while a shell FC is one that has between 1-3 members. Also, due to the restrictions outlined at https://support.na.square-enix.com/r...&tag=freetrial free trial accounts are completely irrelevant to anything housing as they do not have enough gil to buy an apartment (let alone a house) and cannot join (much less create) an FC.

One of the things I think we should start zeroing into is the supply side of things. I think a good thing to do is start with defining exactly how much supply we need, starting with the personal houses. Going by https://ffxivcensus.com/ there are roughly 650k active players (although that number is definitely in dispute and doesn't take into consideration the influx of Asmonsprouts). So pulling in the data from https://www.xivhousing.com/ (which has greatly improved since the last time I have seen it), there are roughly 267k personal and vacant houses across all of FFXIV, so we're looking at roughly 40% saturation for the houses going by this number.

If no additional wards are going to be added, Ishgard will add about another 98k houses across all servers (68 unless I failed at counting >.>). That's going to help the personal house side of things greatly if at least half of those are in personal house only wards. SE should probably also add 6 more wards to bring it up to an even 30, and then continue to add in neighborhoods as time progresses at 30 wards until housing stops being a problem.... like having us help rebuild Ala Mhigo and giving us Ala Mhigan housing... and possibly Sharlyan housing down the line.

So looking at the FC houses, there are roughly 120k FC houses worldwide, and using https://www.xivhousing.com/2021-cens...enters-regions to slice the data, roughly 23k of those are shell FC houses, that's about 20% of all FC houses worldwide are shell FC houses. Like I have been saying for a long time, the shell FCs need to be dealt with because they are exacerbating the housing problem, with the Chocobo server being the mascot for this problem having 2613 FC houses with 891 of those houses belonging to a shell FC, the single highest of all of the servers both in terms of legitimate and shell FC housing.

Yes we need more supply, but the shell FC issue CANNOT continued to be ignored because it's making this entire housing thing harder than it needs to be.

[Nepentha]

This one change is something players have asked for for a long time and would honestly help otnof people get houses.. as it would actively allow players to share plots propey which right now noone does because if the owner takes a break all the tenants lose there house... even if they actively use it every day...

Fixing tenancy would go along way

Tbh I was surprised they didn't allow for this already. I agree with whoever said cut it down to 1 tenant. And like FCs, if the housing owner doesn't return after 45 days, the house is transferred to the tenant rather than demolish. Probably cut down on some of the demand for housing. Right now, being a tenant just feels like you have a teleport spot, but if anything happens to the homeowner you're out a house since you aren't the owner. And any furniture and the 80 percent of placard cost goes to the homeowner, including anything the tenant dropped in there.

The idea has merit. And would placate some people I'm sure.

[Catstab]

If no additional wards are going to be added, Ishgard will add about another 98k houses across all servers

Standard speculation warning, but we're probably going to be at 30 wards (9000 houses) by 6.35 at the latest. So Ishgard should be 1800 houses per server by a few months after release.

Reasoning:
3.3 was +3 wards https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...43b40551d1e3e8
4.2 just post Shiro was +6 wards https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...33e139e9792abf
5.1 was +3 wards, 5.35 was +3 wards https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...716915b851002f , https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...c440f300e12f75

[Almagnus1]

Standard speculation warning, but we're probably going to be at 30 wards (9000 houses) by 6.35 at the latest. So Ishgard should be 1800 houses per server by a few months after release.

Reasoning:
3.3 was +3 wards https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...43b40551d1e3e8
4.2 just post Shiro was +6 wards https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...33e139e9792abf
5.1 was +3 wards, 5.35 was +3 wards https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...716915b851002f , https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...c440f300e12f75

Best solution after hitting 30 wards is to just add a new neighborhood with each expansion until we get housing saturation.

[Alien_Gamer]

RNG in the gathering forum
-RNG is rigged, I keep missing 4 out of 5 attempts at 95% gathering rate.

RNG on the crafting forum
-RNG is bugged and streaks, skills keep failing most of the time. Hasty fails 90% of the time!

RNG on the combat forum
-RNG sucks, I never roll above 20 on the loot rolls. I'll never get the 2B pants.

RNG on the housing forum
-Yay lottery, this will create world peace and solve hunger across Eorzea.

This is going to end well.

[MilkieTea]

You edited the quote and the editorialized it giving something taken out of context completely new context that was not what was originally intended... then proceeded to QQ about how you were somehow in the right and did nothing wrong. Spare me your theatrics and false apologies.

Maybe you need to take a step back, because what I did was this:

“Hey, isn’t MilkieTea the person who started the Off Topic Discussion Megathread?”

“Wait, really? Proof!”

I think it's high time we have a generic off-topic thread

“Only reason I even remember theyre the one who made the thread is because I saw an argument with them and someone else and MilkieTea said something kinda dumb.”

Everyone is free to check it out btw, but the context is Almagnus’ housing relocation timer, versus the example I gave here.