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  1. #181
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    Fland's Avatar
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    Fraemoht Grehaerzsyn
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonsprite View Post
    You didn’t include the entire paragraph. You quoted a small part to try to prove a point. You excluded key parts from my post.
    I quoted only the relevant part that I want to comment to.
    The other part about about feminine healing and caster gear is not relevant since you already claim that ALL of them are masculine.
    Maybe try not to make an exaggerated generalized claim next time.
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  2. 07-04-2021 05:43 AM

  3. #182
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    BaconBits's Avatar
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    Arya Diavolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonsprite View Post
    The problem isn’t showing more skin, I just want the armor to have a shape and be plate like. If I wanted to be a half naked tank, there are plenty of glamours (that aren’t fending specific) I can use to be half naked. The same argument can be made that healers have plenty of non healing glamours to look masculine in. It’s funny how wanting feminine gear means wanting to show more skin. That’s not what I meant at all.
    Then could you at the very least show an example of what you believe more feminine fending gear should look like so I'm not unintentionally insulting you?
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  4. #183
    Player EaraGrace's Avatar
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    Eara Grace
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Challenged by a very vocal microcosm on Twitter, in woke academia etc.* And when push comes to shove, many of these ardent man-hating types actually appear to have an attraction for the very type of man they try to vilify.

    And tbf, they have a pretty large market in the West, so they ought to know their customer base.

    However, even in countries like China, what is seen as originating as a subversive push against the Japanese to feminise and thereby weaken their men, is now rejected in strong terms by the China's ruling party, which has little time for that kind of thing. I don't think it will be long until this happens in Japan as well. It's not like this game is aimed at anything but a rather small minority of the Japanese public.


    Weird conspiratorial thinking? Check.

    Ranting about cultural differences? Check.

    Complaining about “wokeness”? Check.

    Did you steal this from a Facebook post?
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  5. #184
    Player lezard21's Avatar
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    Arngrim Hallbjorn
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaconBits View Post
    Then could you at the very least show an example of what you believe more feminine fending gear should look like so I'm not unintentionally insulting you?
    He wants armor with nipples.
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  6. 07-04-2021 06:20 AM

  7. #185
    Player lezard21's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonsprite View Post
    Don’t assume my gender. I’m a woman and you are offensive. You aren’t funny. You are crude and disgusting.

    I want armor that conforms to the female shape and isn’t a bulky box. I like the crystarium fending chest, but it dyes terriblely. I also like the neo top, the nier top from this last raid, halone fending, hellfire top, bonewicca boots. I’m already afraid the new pld artifact set is a box with a cape on female characters. I like roses and cherry blossoms. That’s what I want and like.
    Educational time:

    https://www.quora.com/Historically-s...eason-for-them





    Also I don't know when or how this offtopic discussion about armor started since the OP very clearly stated that he is talking about the face, hair and body shape of current male races being all too feminine.

    edit: vvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

    Then educate us and show us what armor conforming to the female shape looks like.

    Plate armor looking bulky is not because it's conforming to the male shape. Plate armor is bulky because the less unecessary curvature it has the less pressure points and thus more resistant. You might not care about those details, but SE does, otherwise we would be running around in metal bikinis by endgame like every other MMO.
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    Last edited by lezard21; 07-04-2021 at 06:46 AM.

  8. 07-04-2021 06:38 AM

  9. #186
    Player
    Fland's Avatar
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    Fraemoht Grehaerzsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonsprite View Post
    When sentences are included in the same paragraph they are relevant to one another. They were in a specific order. You are just trolling because you read the entire paragraph and what I said and chose one sentence to reply to without the context of the previous sentences. Your defensive because I called you out on it. It’s fine. You just want to stick it to the big bad girl who doesn’t agree or hold the same opinions as you.
    LMAO calling people trolling for calling out your unnecessarily exaggerated claim.
    You said all eden gears are masculine, so that includes the casting and healing yeah? or does your definition of all is different?
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  10. #187
    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaraGrace View Post


    Weird conspiratorial thinking? Check.

    Ranting about cultural differences? Check.

    Complaining about “wokeness”? Check.

    Did you steal this from a Facebook post?
    It's his personal opinion.

    An opinion many share, myself included.
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  11. #188
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    J'uzo Okita
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonsprite View Post
    I want armor that conforms to the female shape and isn’t a bulky box. I like the crystarium fending chest, but it dyes terriblely. I also like the neo top, the nier top from this last raid, halone fending, hellfire top, bonewicca boots. I’m already afraid the new pld artifact set is a box with a cape on female characters. I like roses and cherry blossoms. That’s what I want and like.
    Tbh Crystarium is cool on both genders. Neo top is genderlocked (thank god). Nier top is genderlocked (thank god). Halone is genderlocked (thank god, even if i don't like it xD). Hellfire for male is not my thing tbh, the pecs showing just looks stupid to me so i wish it was genderlocked like the others. Bonewicca boots i don't care, i don't like them but there's plenty of boots i can use instead (boots are not the main thing for me xD).

    So to make both of us happy genderlocking is the way but many others will disagree and make males wear females versions. Because they don't like to wear masculine things and don't want to play a female. Same thing for players with female characters who don't want feminine things, but most of them seem fine with neutral stuff at least lol. Most male who want girl stuff want girls stuff and nothing else, no adjusting. That's what frustrates some male players imo.

    Tbh i don't find the endwalker pld armor "masculine", it looks more like a realistic armor. It fits for a tank and many armors in game go with grazy looks, it's a good change imo xD
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  12. #189
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    Caur Kagon
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaraGrace View Post


    Weird conspiratorial thinking? Check.

    Ranting about cultural differences? Check.

    Complaining about “wokeness”? Check.

    Did you steal this from a Facebook post?
    Oh look, the type of person he addressed in his post. How quaint.
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  13. #190
    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Kizuya Katogami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonsprite View Post
    Don’t try to downplay your level of creepiness by posting “history lessons”. You were being nasty. You thought it was funny. It wasn’t.
    Is this what you’re resorting to when all of your other arguments have failed? Claiming that he’s being creepy when all he’s doing is pointing out the facts in fun banter. Y’all wonder why everyone sees this community as thin skinned and sensitive snowflakes jesus.
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