Open World PvP

[SturmChurro]

And you're the same one who claims to not have an FC and insists on playing alone. You're not going to normalize this, nor should it be. Work on yourself.

I'm not sure what me playing alone has to do with any of this, but okay? There's a difference between being a part of the guild, and marrying somebody in a game. Like seriously marrying somebody online, not just doing it for the lols, or the rewards.

Honestly, I think they could add a zone that is PvP based that wouldn't require interaction with the normal non PvP content. You could even have dailies to earn Wolf currency.

Pretty much Cyrodiil in ESO?

[van_arn]

And you're the same one who claims to not have an FC and insists on playing alone. You're not going to normalize this, nor should it be. Work on yourself.

Not everyone wants a fc, and that’s okay. Their opinion on their choice is the only one that matters.

[SturmChurro]

Not everyone wants a fc, and that’s okay. Their opinion on their choice is the only one that matters.

Right? Me not wanting an FC has nothing to do with open world PvP, or my takes on in-game weddings. For that matter, I've participated in open world PvP by myself often anyway. Like excuse me for thinking it's weird to marry someone in an online game, and thinking it would be fun to crash it.

[Artemiz]

There’s a video on YouTube of a player funeral crash. Most either see that as the perfect ingame tribute with much funny or you see it as an unforgivable attack on the memory of a player.

Which way you interpret it is a good indication of whether you can comprehend open pvp or not.

Again, none of this is new. This is something Bartle observed in the long long ago.

I've played plenty of PvP games, I can assure you I "comprehend" it. I just don't think adding PvP to a game that's been designed from day one, and balanced for 8 years around not having PvP in the open world would benefit, in any way, from it's sudden inclusion.

How fair is it, to attack a gatherer with a level 80 combat job? they can't even hope to defend themselves and now they've lost the node they just spent time and effort waiting to spawn. Who is that fun for? You say you find sportsmanship boring, well good for you. I find killing players who have no chance to fight back to be boring and pointless.

Crashing a wedding, or especially a funeral is frankly the epitome of childish toxicity. It's got nothing to do with whether you can comprehend PvP or not, and a hell of a lot to do with whether you can leave people alone to play a game in peace, in a way they enjoy that doesn't effect you in any way.

[KizuyaKatogami]

If part of this is aimed at me ( I did post a lot in the ERP thread) then I have been entirely consistent on my stance on ERP. I don't support it, I don't do it and I recommend you report it. I am also strongly against player hate mobs self policing the player base, whether that be through mass reporting groups or PvP trolling. Fallacies my friend, I see you know them well.

It wasn’t towards you, but again, this community sure loves to assume things. The world doesn’t revolve around you. If people don’t quote you then they most likely aren’t talking about you.

[DBriggs304]

Eh...That won't really work in this game OP. PvP would have to totally be reworked as it's terrible here. The gcd makes it horrible.

That is the only system in this game that I think is a failure.

[KizuyaKatogami]

There are literally people in this thread who said that is exactly why they want open world pvp.

So I'll throw that learning to read comment right back at ya.

I never said you specifically said that you wanted to grief. Maybe comprehension is a skill you should learn.

Okay and that’s them. Did i say i wanted to system to be a grief fest? No. Other people have also stated that they just simply want an opt-in, but again, comprehension seems to be something you need to work on. That, or you’re purposely being oblivious to it as you only want to see this as one thing and not the other so it’s easier for you to gatekeep. Whatever the reason may be, there’s different arguments for how this would be implemented. Some people want to grief, some people just want more open world content and more fun/engaging pvp. Learn to read both sides instead of only using one to support your argument.

[Kes13a]

I think it’s pretty sad tbh that people have grown so scared of change,growth, and new things. I feel like it’s a problem that’s really only with this community as well. People have such thin skin and think everyone is out to get them. So they decide to instantly reject ideas of trying to add new fun things to the game and come up with the worst reasons to deny it, especially when people are giving different options and ways it could be implemented. Instead it seems people would rather we just keep losing content, and losing out on all sorts of different gameplay systems, and would rather they get their pretty parasols and gpose stickers. Yet i see some of the people in here are the ones saying there’s nothing wrong with advertising erp in the party finder interesting how that works huh...

I would say that most people who came to FFxiv did not come here for pvp.

I would challenge the people here who are pushing for this, "change" to point out a mmo that was DESIGNED from the ground up, such as WoW, that has included pvp, that is well done and working properly? Where the pvp worlds/zones are healthy and populated. I see these kinda of request in non pvp centric games a lot, which always leads me to ask if you are THAT interested in pvp, why not play a game where its well done and planned for instead of trying to push it into something its clearly not designed for?

I played an mmo in the past, I cant remember which one, that did develop worlds for pvp... and then basically never did anything again for pvp. I doubt you want that here, since in that game, on the forums, even the rabid pve only people felt sorry for the poor ignored few that wanted to pvp on servers that were more broken and ignored than great aunt Matilda's jellied tongue salad at a family dinner.

[van_arn]

Eh...That won't really work in this game OP. PvP would have to totally be reworked as it's terrible here. The gcd makes it horrible.

That is the only system in this game that I think is a failure.

Agreed. Even if the technical issues were ironed out, the community is utterly incompatible with the concept.

[Artemiz]

It wasn’t towards you, but again, this community sure loves to assume things. The world doesn’t revolve around you. If people don’t quote you then they most likely aren’t talking about you.

That's why I said if. Also please be consistent, at least for one sentence. You were obviously talking about multiple people yet didn't quote anyone, making your little dig at the end, somewhat hypocritical.