Exclusivity and the potential downfall of the game.

[Dzian]

For example there's some 1.0 stuff which was great for me to have for the 10+ years, sure. But at this point who else is running around in my Asuran Gauntlets? Why are we still hording this item for the 4 people total still playing the game? I exclusively had these for 10 years. I'm good. At some point it doesn't make sense.

The asuran things maybeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.... but i'd say theyre somewhat different because thats not something tied to the game or anything its. just like oh hey you preoredered ff13.. kinda likehow some minions are connected to buying the soundtrackor something years ago... and i personally consider stuff like that to be different to actual earnt game rewards and such.. so releasing the asuran guards again yeah totally fine with that cos its just a preorder thing not actually a gameplay thing... but stuff like the white ravens or even the legacy chocobo actually represent something in the game. so thats where they need to be more carefuli think. but again even if they just made the whiteravens they dished out freely a replica version that would have made all the difference and prevented a lot of the uproar. and there would likely be insane levels of backlash if they ever handed out legacy chocobos for the same reason. because they represent something in the actual game.

This is not an entirely fair assessment because the pool of players actually doing that content will get decidedly smaller. Case in point, before Cross World PF existed, it was near impossible to farm EX primals once the new one came out on several servers. No one wanted to do them. The same thing would happen with forcing a level sync.

Honestly thats something thats quite tricky to make a totally fair assessment on.

Part of the reason why it became difficult to farm old Ex primals was down the fact that players know they can literally just unsync it and run it 10 times easier and 10 times faster next expansion and given that the other incentive (weapons) on old ex primals were already obselete and outdated thus unwanted, theres no reason not to wait till the expansion and just rofl stomp it.

Another reason reason why parties for old ex primals don't fill today is because so many people have already unsynced and steam rolled there way through them.
if you took a thousand players you might find 900 of them have mountx.. but if unsynced was never implemented that number might only be 300. whcih then means if you put up a party finder for mountx today. 700 people would potentially need the mount and be interested in joining instead of just 100. which would then potentially mean that even today parties for mountx would still fill up.

[Fland]

But they do... My main job's relic weapon is BiS. I didn't look at the other jobs but I wouldn't be surprised if it's the case for more than mine.

People who clear the hardest content get the weapons that hurt the most, that's how it should be.

They probably meant during the time of their release. Relic weapons never outlevel raid weapons when the raid is released.
Relics would be BiS at the end of expansion when the raid is not so relevant anymore.

[ItMe]

They probably meant during the time of their release. Relic weapons never outlevel raid weapons when the raid is released.
Relics would be BiS at the end of expansion when the raid is not so relevant anymore.

I'm pretty sure there have been times (in this expac even) when an incomplete relic was BiS for some of the healers.
I wanna say AST or SCH had this happen to them recently, but I don't quite recall.

[Caurcas]

Nyet, system is fine. If you clear before echo/ilvl nerf you did good and can be proud.

[TaleraRistain]

Sounds like you want Ultimate. SE has said that will never be able to be unsynced.

They've gradually made Savage easier for the very simple fact that people weren't doing it and they wanted more people to do the content they created. You start to see a diminishing return on development labor if you have multiple pieces of content that cater to only the hardcore mindset. From what Yoshi-P has described, there is a LOT of effort that goes into Ultimates. And it seems they get a good return on the development time there. But you can't expect the entire game is going to be like that. Then it becomes a niche game and either stubbornly holds on like EverQuest or it dies like WildStar.

[LisSquid]

Have you done the Bozja and Zadnor duels yet?

I have! While they're in the same spirit, they're not exactly encounters tuned to your specific job/role. Definitely not the same in having multi-phases to learn and work through.

[linayar]

XIVs problem is its own hypocrisy.
When it allows things like PVP gear or even ultimate loot to maintain a sense of Prestige / rarity because the developers say "they don't want the items to lose their value or significance"
but then trashes the value of everything else because the developers say "it's just digital pixels they have no value or significance"
Same devs but 2 totally contradictory statements. Should be one or the other not both. That's hypocrisy.

Yoshida recently stated in an interview that Savage is now intended to have broader appeal (likely coinciding with developing Ultimate as additional content). So it's less to do with the value of the rewards by themselves, but more to do with the associated contents since PVP seasons and Ultimate are not necessarily intended to have broader appeal. You literally have limited chance to be considered for those rewards in PVP seasons.

Different approaches to different reward systems for different contents is not hypocrisy.

[Dzian]

Yoshida recently stated in an interview that Savage is now intended to have broader appeal (likely coinciding with developing Ultimate as additional content). So it's less to do with the value of the rewards by themselves, but more to do with the associated contents since PVP seasons and Ultimate are not necessarily intended to have broader appeal. You literally have limited chance to be considered for those rewards in PVP seasons.

The issue there is that by trying to broaden the appeal they ultimately make things worse.. its a pretty common opinion that virtually every raid tier is more boring then the last. Same with other content like how many perceive the nicer raids as some of the worst alliance raids ever...

Then look at healers. Big changes made in 5.0 to make them simpler and more appealing to more players.... how did that work out..

But ultimately the way they treat rewardsnis why so many people just get lazy and think screw it just unsync it later. Which ultimately only serves to make the content LESS appealing to more players and not more appealing.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Exclusivity for the sake of it is dumb. Look you made this handful of people feel superior and good but there is an ocean of people over there feeling bad because of it. Stupid. If you clear savage when it is still relevant, everyone who sees you with that stuff during that time period knows you got through the content at its most difficult. Casual players are the majority of players, so yes SE should let them be able to access content after some time.

I still hate the certain things are unobtainable from previous events or 1.0, though for 1.0 I understand the why of it. Still want that Legacy choco though...

[kaynide]

I don't think the devs have ever advertised anything as being exclusive- a google search for "FFXIV Exclusive Item" pulls up no actual FFXIV items except on specifically named "Exclusive Eastern Journey Attire" (exclusive being part of the item's actual name), or links about how X gear or mount is exclusive to a particular job (Gunbreaker mount specifically).

This simply is not a promise the devs have made.

Devs are on record that there is a very narrow window of most "prestige" items earn-able in game. That is to say, if you busted butt getting Excalibur in 2.0, congrats, you did it! Enjoy your glamour gloating...but it is purposefully going to be easier via echo/unsyncing as it gets older.

With very rare exception are items made unobtainable to anyone who wants them.

...so I'm not sure how the OP's argument of a promised Item Exclusivity is anything beyond inside their own head. No offense! Just curious what made you think items were supposed to be exclusive?