Viera and Hrothgar Megathread

[Itsgigglez]

so we‘ve got the 14h broadcast and the live letter set for the 10th of july! lets hope for some news!
https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...2745ae8732a97c

Is that 2:30 am or pm?

[Fukuro]

Viera/Hrothgar will likely not get any updates for another year or so after EW, if even at all. Why? Because the release of the male Viera and future release of Female Hrothgar- after the release of both, there might be a chance that the current state of viera/hroth will be addressed. I doubt it though.

It's been 2 years and literally no mention of anything. I felt that the announcement of male Viera was a slap in the face and blatantly ignoring the current issue with female Viera and Hrothgar's lack of new hair/fixing the inability to use the aesthetician properly.

But people are supposed to be excited about a male bunnies? Do they realize that they will probably be stuck in the same boat as female? They will not address this. They will do what they always do and just throw in new shiny things to keep everyone distracted. and each time the smoke clears, people are back pointing out the obvious lack of updates on the new races and then the cycle will continue. Keep making threads, keep pointing this out- there is a slim chance it will be noticed and something might be done, eventually... it's just obvious that viera/hroth updates are on the backburner to literally everything else. So, maybe when hell freezes over they will get some much needed attention? Sorry for the sarcasm but, I'm being serious as well.

well they have been rather silent for a longer time, but yoshi p has been more open about the issue these last interviews. he said they have (weekly) meetings and they seem to be working on it.

Yoshi P: Besonders in diesem Fall haben wir uns über die vergangenen sechs Monate immer wieder Gedanken darüber gemacht, wie wir die Entwicklungskosten senken können oder welche Möglichkeiten wir haben, alle Frisuren umzusetzen.

roughly translated as: particularly on this subject (viera hair) we‘ve been discussing again and again how to lower development costs and what possibilities there are to implement all hairstyles.

in a more recent interview he also mentioned:

I have mentioned this on several occasions, but I understand why players request this—I really do. In an effort to accommodate this, even if just a little bit, we have continued to spend a lot of time assessing possible changes in structural design of the models, as well as potential additions to our current workflow. Even as I write this, I just met with the team to get an update on their testing status for this. We may not be able to get them to be exactly the same as the other playable races, but I hope to be able to give you some kind of update soon, including the status on the stubble for Hyur as you asked about previously, so your patience on the matter is greatly appreciated!

im quite positive some news are coming soon, maybe on july the 10th?

Is that 2:30 am or pm?

for me it‘s 4.30 am... (central europe time)

[LuciaMirain]

well they have been rather silent for a longer time, but yoshi p has been more open about the issue these last interviews. he said they have (weekly) meetings and they seem to be working on it.



roughly translated as: particularly on this subject (viera hair) we‘ve been discussing again and again how to lower development costs and what possibilities there are to implement all hairstyles.

in a more recent interview he also mentioned:


im quite positive some news are coming soon, maybe on july the 10th?




for me it‘s 4.30 am... (central europe time)

He is suddenly talking about it, so yeah, I would expect some news. Or else he wouldve continued being tighlipped about it.

[LuciaMirain]

Just realised that even the headgear that does go on viera usually still clips with the hairstyles being too puffy. One tiara sits really far out.....

[Starshower]

well they have been rather silent for a longer time, but yoshi p has been more open about the issue these last interviews. he said they have (weekly) meetings and they seem to be working on it.



roughly translated as: particularly on this subject (viera hair) we‘ve been discussing again and again how to lower development costs and what possibilities there are to implement all hairstyles.

in a more recent interview he also mentioned:


im quite positive some news are coming soon, maybe on july the 10th?




for me it‘s 4.30 am... (central europe time)

I've waited for so long for any kind of updates on this... I'm not holding my breath for any announcements on this front in the livestream. This will probably come in an endwalker patch if we're lucky, or a feature for the next expansion. But I'd love to be proven wrong!



One thing that excites me is that they're thinking of adding all hairstyles for vieras. And that would mean male viera as well! I'm gonna be a male viera anyway, if I get all hairstyles I've unlocked I'd be over the moon! I'd probably never change race again.



The curious thing is that YP talked about this in the interview... but did that include hrothgar? Is there any chance they'd allow hrothgar not only to change their hair but have hairstyles from other races?? If they actually did that, I'd probably go back to being a hroth again. I changed to highlander some weeks ago because I really, really wanted to be able to change my hairstyle at will again. At one point you just get tired of being treated like a second class citizen. Give viera and hrothgar this ultimate hair freedom and I'm 100% sure many of the dissatisfied players would go back to playing them, myself included! At least I hope that's what YP wants to do from what I understood of the interview.


Hats are another problem... I don't think they'll be able to wear all hats. But maybe, with this restructuring of the new race's model (from what he said he is planning to do) they could make it so it's more hat compatible! It's exciting he wants to go so far as remaking the head models so it's compatible with more stuff. Also makes me think: if they're planning on doing this now, maybe male viera will already have this more compatible head shape when it's released? It would make sense, since it's stupid to be thinking about this now, release male viera with the limited head shape, only to fix it later.

[Akimori]

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I vaguely remember yoshi especially mentioning the hrothgar situation with Fantasias and said that he and his team are looking for a way to get through this (COUGH JUST UNTIE THE HAIR FROM THE FACES AND MOVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE YOUR PATTERNS TO THE FANTASIA CHANGE AND YOUR HAIR TO THE NPC 4HEADCOUGH). If the hat issue can't be addressed surely the hair issue for hrothgars can't be that close to their hat issues because I draw the line at *cant wear these hairs because of the shape of their heads*. Its hair.....it *GROWS* on the head...... In that instance, if they keep hrothgars in the same situation, then there is something else other than their headshape that is preventing them from wearing hairs (windcaller hair pls)

[Allegor]

It's not as easy as that since Hrothgar are the only race that can "edit" their hairstyle through the facial features tab. I think it'd be more likely to add more heads that are just using the other hairstyles than redo their whole CC.

[Iscah]

(COUGH JUST UNTIE THE HAIR FROM THE FACES AND MOVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE YOUR PATTERNS TO THE FANTASIA CHANGE AND YOUR HAIR TO THE NPC 4HEADCOUGH)

Clearly it's not that simple.

I assume fur pattern has to be in the hairstyle slot to link into the "hair colour" and "highlight colour" palettes with each design technically being a separate hairstyle with the same basic shape but different highlight patterns.

There might have been other ways around it, but I don't think they're going to redesign the race now that it's been released and changing it might make people lose their character as it currently exists.

[LyraMaru]

I just don't get the design choices regarding hrothgar hair anyway. SE knows how addicted the players are in their characters. And to be hones - playing a beast race doesn't mean that the hair isn't important :-)

Hopefully ALL hairstyles for viera are coming. I switched back to viera against my conviction cause I just missed my bun bun. But again not having so many hairstyles hurts a little. Normally I'm switching hairstyles at least 4 times a week, sometimes several times a day. I'm the aesthetician's best customer.

I'll try to get my hands on the newest hairstyle from zadnor chests then, cause I like it very much.

[LuciaMirain]

I just don't get the design choices regarding hrothgar hair anyway. SE knows how addicted the players are in their characters. And to be hones - playing a beast race doesn't mean that the hair isn't important :-)

Hopefully ALL hairstyles for viera are coming. I switched back to viera against my conviction cause I just missed my bun bun. But again not having so many hairstyles hurts a little. Normally I'm switching hairstyles at least 4 times a week, sometimes several times a day. I'm the aesthetician's best customer.

I'll try to get my hands on the newest hairstyle from zadnor chests then, cause I like it very much.

I would be very surprised if they add anything but more racespecific hairstyles to viera (and hrothgar). They obviously could, but they have already backtracked that they would so....