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  1. #31411
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    C'erise Vanesse
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    These combined I use for my jobs, never had the need to expand more. Most is mapped to my MMO mouse as well so get pretty easy to use.

    You could expand using A and D as well since imo it more effective just use W and maybe S for movement, and just use the mouse to controll the camera.
    I personally use WASD for movement as well as using my mouse to control the camera - but that's because I need the extra little bit of control. Normally you won't be using A or D for movement. This is a good recommendation.



    this is my DNC hud. I haven't even been able to use 1 full hud, there's not a lot of DNC skills.
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
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    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

  2. #31412
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    I personally use WASD for movement as well as using my mouse to control the camera - but that's because I need the extra little bit of control. Normally you won't be using A or D for movement. This is a good recommendation.



    this is my DNC hud. I haven't even been able to use 1 full hud, there's not a lot of DNC skills.
    Mines not very creative:



    In my opinion, skills like 'Arm's Length', 'Second Wind', as well as 'Shield Samba', and 'Curing Waltz', should be on a hotkey, so they can be used as quickly as possible when necessary. 'Flourish', and 'Devilment' should most definitely be on hotkeys. Not to mention with DNC not having a whole lot of skill bloat, I see no reason why 'Improvisation', or 'Peloton' shouldn't be on a hotkey either. 'Closed Position' should be on a hotkey as well, so you can switch partners at will, as quickly as possible.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 06-16-2021 at 08:05 PM.
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  3. #31413
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banriikku View Post
    Delubrum.....
    Half of the peeps dont use any Essence or Potions...
    Damage is not there it took us almost 15 minutes to kill the first boss...
    Nobody wants to tank so the dps are tanking...
    After calling out the tanks and saying "use stuff or this will take a eternity"
    People leave ....
    Just why ? Why borther going Delubrum if you are not using anything and dont do shit ? I dont get it ....
    All you need to do is look at the recent threads regarding Delubrum and players not using essences to get your answer.

    Better off joining/setting up a PF than putting yourself through DF hell.
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  4. #31414
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Mines not very creative:



    In my opinion, skills like 'Arm's Length', and 'Second Wind', should be on a hotkey, so they can be used as quickly as possible when necessary. 'Flourish', and 'Devilment' should most definitely be on hotkeys. Not to mention with DNC not having a whole lot of skill bloat, I see no reason why 'Improvisation', or 'Peloton' shouldn't be on a hotkey either.
    Some skills are where they are because they're there on other classes, for me - it's muscle memory. Also, things like Flourish, Devilment, aren't on hotkeys because of their long recast times. They're thing's I have to consistently remember to use, not use off of muscle memory or when they randomly proc and I need to be quick about it. However I use a mix of my mouse and keyboard when playing in battle, and because my hand is constantly on my mouse (I have a simple mouse with 4 programmable keys - 2 of which are on the side and one of which is a DPI key that I turned into the Alt key, and one that I've yet to find a use for) I'm able to quickly click skills that I need.

    TL;DR my skills are where they are because I'm a creature of habit and use a mix of mouse and keyboard to access skills.

    What I said though, still stands. If they've run out of keybinds, take things with long recast timers or things that are not utilized in combat (peloton turns off in combat, it's only used out of combat, therefore it's not something you need to grab in a hurry/pinch), and put them on a separate hud bar that doesn't have keybinds attached, that way things that ARE more utilized in combat/necessary as HECK (technical step, in this example) are able to sit more comfortably.

    (As a side note, I do have a pretty good reaction time - I played OSU with my mouse for the majority of my teenage years, and still sometimes hop on to refresh my skill)

    EDIT: Your hud though, looks clean as heck, and is something I've been striving for for the last few months. Creativity doesn't mean CRAP if you can't use it, and obviously your hud is built for use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

  5. #31415
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    What the... How is this.. I can't even.. ON DANCER?!

    [But seriously, if you really having trouble binding all of them at least use TS over something like Curing Waltz or Improvisation which you won't need/use anyway. TS is one of your most important attacks]
    I can comfortably reach about 10 on my keyboard. It's why I swapped to a controller. I just haven't played dancer since.

    I have stupid stupid short fingers. I should get one of those MMO mice but regular mice screw my wrist up.

    Controller is more comfortable.

    And curing waltz wasn't bound either. Clicked that too.
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  6. #31416
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    Pepsi Plunge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    I can comfortably reach about 10 on my keyboard.
    Dancer has like 18 Buttons you need (if I counted correctly). With Shift and Alt you can reduce it to 6 per set.
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  7. #31417
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    Can't use alt. It's bound to discord function. I'm limited to control. Shift is awkward

    Doesn't matter anymore though as I'm no longer playing KB/mouse, nor am I playing DNC.

    I'm leveling other jobs now. Holy hell some got button bloat. I'm looking at the spellbooks wondering how I'm gonna manage all that.
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  8. #31418
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    Some skills are where they are because they're there on other classes, for me - it's muscle memory. Also, things like Flourish, Devilment, aren't on hotkeys because of their long recast times. They're thing's I have to consistently remember to use, not use off of muscle memory or when they randomly proc and I need to be quick about it. However I use a mix of my mouse and keyboard when playing in battle, and because my hand is constantly on my mouse (I have a simple mouse with 4 programmable keys - 2 of which are on the side and one of which is a DPI key that I turned into the Alt key, and one that I've yet to find a use for) I'm able to quickly click skills that I need.

    TL;DR my skills are where they are because I'm a creature of habit and use a mix of mouse and keyboard to access skills.

    What I said though, still stands. If they've run out of keybinds, take things with long recast timers or things that are not utilized in combat (peloton turns off in combat, it's only used out of combat, therefore it's not something you need to grab in a hurry/pinch), and put them on a separate hud bar that doesn't have keybinds attached, that way things that ARE more utilized in combat/necessary as HECK (technical step, in this example) are able to sit more comfortably.

    (As a side note, I do have a pretty good reaction time - I played OSU with my mouse for the majority of my teenage years, and still sometimes hop on to refresh my skill)

    EDIT: Your hud though, looks clean as heck, and is something I've been striving for for the last few months. Creativity doesn't mean CRAP if you can't use it, and obviously your hud is built for use.
    I probably should just say, generally, I like to have everything on keybinds. Probably a holdover from my PvP days (not that I've given that up) - you die if you couldn't react fast enough. My right hand is pretty much always on my mouse for camera movement as well. I think the mouse I'm using is actually more suited for shooters, rather than mmmorpgs.

    To be honest, I don't know how anyone could run out of keybinds. I don't even use an MMO mouse, and I restrict my numbered binds to like 5, because anything past it is uncomfortable for me.

    Thanks, I still think it's pretty basic. It's mostly just quite scaled down, but I also don't like my bars in the middle of my screen. I prefer them out of the way, but then I don't like combat bars completely out of the way, so I wouldn't put them on the side either..
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 06-16-2021 at 09:10 PM.
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  9. #31419
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    wondering how I'm gonna manage all that.
    I highly recommend you to give MMO mouse a try if you can afford one.
    Hope this video by Zelpa HQ who mains a dancer and plays using an MMO mouse be of help to you.
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  10. #31420
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    I highly recommend you to give MMO mouse a try if you can afford one.
    Hope this video by Zelpa HQ who mains a dancer and plays using an MMO mouse be of help to you.
    I have RSI in my right wrist and require an ergonomic mouse or my arm goes numb.

    It's why I don't use one
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