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  1. #31291
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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    Aelona Chillwind
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I was just doing a raid* like any other, then I glance at chat at the end. Apparently, me spamming glare hit a nerve:



    I did actually die once during the run because I stood in something a millisecond too long, while trying to get a glare off.

    Pro healers swiftcast Glare.
    (6)

  2. #31292
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    Itsgigglez's Avatar
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    Tau Val'rek
    World
    Halicarnassus
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
    White mages are white because we're built of salt.
    Amen to that brother/Sister. I have too many people get mad at me as a whm cus I decided to dps cus my co healer (my husband) wanted to do most of the healing while I glare mage'd it up. Was told im trash cus he did 80% of the healing while I used a ogcd every so often.

    Also: im gonna steal that quote.
    (3)

  3. #31293
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    RinaB's Avatar
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    Character
    Lily Jun
    World
    Seraph
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I love how in ff14 it's acceptable as a healer to complain about having to heal...the double standards are amazing. P
    (5)

  4. #31294
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    IDontPetLalas's Avatar
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    Alinne Seamont
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RinaB View Post
    I love how in ff14 it's acceptable as a healer to complain about having to heal...the double standards are amazing. P
    Shhh, please turn on your tank stance. Thank you!
    (2)

  5. #31295
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    Kaoru_Nagisa's Avatar
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    Azeroth
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    Character
    Crowe Valtyr
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RinaB View Post
    I love how in ff14 it's acceptable as a healer to complain about having to heal...the double standards are amazing. P
    It isn't a double standard though? When 90% of damage in non-Savage content barely hurts or can be healed via regen ticks, you really don't need to do a lot of healing. Using that down time to dps - in a game completely built on dps above everything - is what any good healer is going to do.

    When a co-heal is also overhealing at every minor papercut, the need to heal goes even further down.

    You really aren't having the "gotcha!" moment you think you are.
    (14)
    Quote Originally Posted by Kisama View Post
    The average playerbase is mindbogglingly bad at this game.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Expecting basic job mechanics is toxic now?
    Quote Originally Posted by Karowolus View Post
    If WoW has a toxic negativity problem, XIV has a toxic Positivity problem

  6. #31296
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Sturm Churro
    World
    Marilith
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    A friend and I lost a bunch of mettle in Zadnor. We died due to a bunch of people abandoning a FATE partway through leaving me, as a DRK, with all the aggro. Despite our polite requests for someone to revive us, nobody bothered to do so - including a RDM and WHM who wandered nearby but decided not to bother helping out.

    Luckily it's pretty easy to regain lost mettle, though it was still annoying.
    Ironically, I just had a similar experience, AND I have the chat logs:



    I had the audacity to be using aoe on a FATE, when people start running in with several hard hitting mobs. The last aoe I used clipped a sasquatch and I got beaten to death because of it. Nobody pulled it off of me, nobody healed me, everyone stopped using aoe. So I was left to get beaten to death by a sasquatch I didn't pull. I didn't feel like wasting time waiting in the hope somebody would raise me. So I released. The mettle loss just exacerbated the issue, but wasn't the main issue. I think the chat logs speak for themselves. I also highlighted in yellow how little I personally cared about the mettle loss. The issue here is more than just that.
    (11)
    Last edited by SturmChurro; 05-31-2021 at 06:02 AM.
    WHM | RDM | DNC

  7. #31297
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    Roeshel's Avatar
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    Character
    Kael Yoshim
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Ironically, I just had a similar experience, AND I have the chat logs:



    I had the audacity to be using aoe on a FATE, when people start running in with several hard hitting mobs. The last aoe I used clipped a sasquatch and I got beaten to death because of it. Nobody pulled it off of me, nobody healed me, everyone stopped using aoe. So I was left to get beaten to death by a sasquatch I didn't pull. I didn't feel like wasting time waiting in the hope somebody would raise me. So I released. The mettle loss just exacerbated the issue, but wasn't the main issue. I think the chat logs speak for themselves. I also highlighted in yellow how little I personally cared about the mettle loss. The issue here is more than just that.

    To me, it looks like you were talking with some men-children. Silly, irresponsible and idiotic. All in all low-quality human beings.
    (12)

  8. #31298
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    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Kugane
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    Character
    Rozemyne Shyahoro
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Got a copperbell hard with 3 sprouts while on WHM. It wasn't a terrible run but I could tell from the get go they aren't the type to actually listen to much of anything. Summoner used physick periodically when they were missing maybe 1000 hp (only had about 5.2k). Naturally I cannot bring myself to tell them about why Physick on summoner is bad. I inform them there's no real point in running from the minions on the final boss. Summoner proceeds to sprint run away the entire time. I did the waymaker bomb duty because I don't think they'd listen on how to do that in the first place.

    I'm all for helping new people on first runs, but that only applies if they you know... actually are willing to listen and cooperate.
    (5)

  9. #31299
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    Katie_Kitty's Avatar
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    Character
    Princess Whiskers
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RinaB View Post
    I love how in ff14 it's acceptable as a healer to complain about having to heal...the double standards are amazing. P
    I can understand when the goal is parsing savage content, but some of the healers I've met have really boggled my mind in that regard. I mean, like, healers who get offended when you suggest they should deign to raise a casual player who dies in a level80 dungeon. Healers who think they need to save every single GCD for glare even when you're day-1 progging savage?

    Hey, I love healers who do damage! Give me all the holy spam and the gravity and the glare on raid bosses and so on. It's great!

    But it's pretty silly when I see healers who act like they're above needing to hardcast raise in a dungeon (because they just had to keep swiftcast on cooldown for those instant glares, for what purpose, who knows), or healers who think day 1 savage prog is the appropriate time to demand the rest of the group adjusts so they can use every single GCD for damage and not healing.
    (4)

  10. #31300
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    BaconBits's Avatar
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    Character
    Arya Diavolos
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 98
    The real reason to use swiftcast on glare is to keep the gcd rolling while giving white mage an opportunity to continue attacking while on the move.

    Typically it's something to be used in an optimized setting where you know your allies aren't in danger of getting bopped by a stray aoe, not in a group of randoms where anyone could eat several mechanics and end up lying face down on the ground waiting for a rez.
    (3)

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