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  1. #91
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    Nanchi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yandere-chan View Post
    The idea that the megathread will dissipate into obscurity because other threads addressing specific topics exist is absurd. One existing does not mean the other cannot. People can post in both. There is not some sort of posting currency restricting what people can reply to. All it really results in is even more exposure for the issue. If you'd rather reply to the megathread, by all means do so, but you didn't do that, did you? You instead posted here. That was your choice, just as it was my choice to make a thread for this matter.
    Okay you didn't really answer my question though. What IS the purpose of this thread? It feels more and more like you are venting and that is totally fine, if that is the purpose of this thread then by all means go ahead. My suggestion for merging with the megathread is only due more exposure and easier access for devs to actually know what players want. I think its very reasonable to think many tiny threads that die out after 5 pages will not help you be heared, compiling info and keeping that thread alive is better for being noticed. BUT that doesn't seem to be your goal.
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  2. #92
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Tbh I switched to Hyur, and it's pretty refreshing to have more options ( and also hats ).
    I might go back to Viera later because I still love Viera but it kinda puts things into perspective lol.

    I had even forgotten that I had Minfillia's hair way back from ARR I think xD!
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  3. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
    I don't know if it's about work flow, or if they forgot, or if it's because of male viera, or if it's because of hrothgar, or if it's because of COVID. Could be? Would be nice if they could, I don't know, say something about it? I'm not "accusing them of ignoring it", they are ignoring it by not addressing it or doing anything.

    Not every speck of content has to be hidden away to be a damned surprise reveal years down the line.
    If SE can tell us that female hrothgar is coming without even giving us a date, then SE can say something about the hrothgar and viera hair situation. I'm tired of this.
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  4. #94
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    Yandere-chan's Avatar
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    Elenore Baker
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    Quote Originally Posted by PurinSato View Post
    I understand we are all angry, but saying that SE is racist is a bit too extreme. You shouldn't be using a word that's so freaking heavy on the real world, to describe SE actions regarding this game.
    Racism is not all about race and you should go to Miss Google and do a research on it.

    On the other hand I agree that the more noise we do, the more likely are we getting an answer. So yes I think creating more threads about this situation would proly have a better impact. It's ridiculous...
    We have been ignored for two years. We have absolutely no updates. We got Male Vieras but if that means no updates on Viera's customization please take Male Vieras back.

    We had a two day Fan Fest and this topic was not addressed. Why? At this point I would rather prefer having a "We are still working on it please be patience" or a "No, vieras are not getting hairs anytime soon" than this horrible silence.
    And for the people who said that we should change to a race that can use the hairs, well try to change to a race that you don't really care about...
    No, I'm pretty sure the word racism is in-fact "all about race." I imagine if I searched enough, that I could find an opinion for anything, but it does not mean I would agree with it just because it exists. It's also not my duty to try to convince myself of some absurd position on the word racism because you'd prefer I see it that way, presumably. A bit more on topic, this ultimately is a racial matter either way, as Viera are a race, it is thus racist in a literal sense in regard to the game race to continuously exclude them for content, in particular for greed, which is what I believe to be the main motivation ultimately driving this current state on the issue.

    I think we otherwise see eye to eye on the matter as two years with very little feedback on the matter is indeed something that really shouldn't be ignored at this point. Not mentioning it at all at fan fest and then releasing yet another hair this issues applies to is not helping at all and makes such a reply more than justified. I too believe both replying to the mega thread and making other threads addressing specific issues is both helpful in garnishing awareness and relevancy for the matters at hand. I feel like people saying to play another race are really just trolls at this point as it's really an absurd thing to suggest otherwise.
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  5. #95
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    Yencat's Avatar
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    Feiya Harlow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    If SE can tell us that female hrothgar is coming without even giving us a date, then SE can say something about the hrothgar and viera hair situation. I'm tired of this.
    Girl, same. If (God forbid, please no) the expansion launches and there's still not a strand of hair to be seen people will find some cockamamie reason to twist that into being totally understandable and reasonable as well.
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  6. #96
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    Cyric Eladriel
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    When I saw that theory about "vieras are the "female part" of hrothgars", I believed that was a good theory, but just a theory, nothing confirmed.
    But after 2 years and the same problem: new hairs and hats, and vieras received nothing, I think that's true... It's not too hard to add new hair or hat for viera, you know... I mean, I don't understand anything about game development, but vieras don't have something "new" like Hrothgar. It's just ears, I think miqo'tes are more difficult to make hats and hairs because their ears have movements, but vieras have two fixed ears, they don't have movements, so whats is the problem here?
    So yeah, I only have hope that vieras will received something new, not when male viera will released, but only when female Hrothgar exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

  7. #97
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    Elenore Baker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanchi View Post
    Okay you didn't really answer my question though. What IS the purpose of this thread? It feels more and more like you are venting and that is totally fine, if that is the purpose of this thread then by all means go ahead. My suggestion for merging with the megathread is only due more exposure and easier access for devs to actually know what players want. I think its very reasonable to think many tiny threads that die out after 5 pages will not help you be heared, compiling info and keeping that thread alive is better for being noticed. BUT that doesn't seem to be your goal.
    And, I think, as I just said, both results in overall more exposure than just one or the other, and it costs nothing to have both. Your point resides on a presumption of one being mutually exclusive to the other, when it isn't, so I don't think you have a point. Unless, your goal is just to waste time and derail this thread, in which I think that's not allowed. Like I said before, if you think it would be better to post on the megathread, there is nothing stopping you from doing so. Just, try to be more on topic there than here. Thanks.
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  8. #98
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    Oh look it's this thread again.
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  9. #99
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    Altria Pendragons
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yandere-chan View Post
    Not from me, thus multiple people feel this way. It's worth repeating each and every time. Hopefully it snowballs to the point that it can no longer be ignored. But, sure, be pessimistic as you presumably do nothing in the present. If your goal is to just block it out, I don't think replying as such here is contributing to that either, but sure, whatever.
    Over exaggerating on an issue they already stated the drawbacks before they release the race.
    You on other hand trying to connect this to the racism is not only extreme and the worst of them all.
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  10. #100
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    Leone Noir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
    If not actually doing what you said you'd do and not saying anything of substance on the subject for going on 2 years isn't ignoring it, what is? No, they absolutely are ignoring it.

    We can speculate about the workflow and in what order it makes sense for them to do things in, but at the end of the day we don't actually know because they won't acknowledge it or talk about it.

    So while it may or may not be the right way to go about it starting these threads, it's going to keep happening.
    ffxiv team already said they plan to work hair and head gear. Do you just want them to say "hey guys, we still plan on working on this"? lol
    I mean, I get it, some transparency would be nice.
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