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  1. #251
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunky View Post
    The problem is that there players, like myself, who want to play as a tall, handsome male character. So far, when it comes to tall options, only Elezen fits the category. But Elezen's proportions can be off-putting.
    How on earth is 6'3" not tall? What planet are you living on? Also, if you're using anime as a standard, 5'10" is probably the absolute max height you'll see a pretty boy at.
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  2. #252
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Why not just be satisfied that you got your Male Viera?
    Unfortunately they are shorter then the females, but why is that an issue?
    Either play them and be happy, or don't. They fulfilled your desire to see what a Male Viera looks like, now why is it not possible to accept the creators design?
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    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Why not just be satisfied that you got your Male Viera?
    Unfortunately they are shorter then the females, but why is that an issue?
    Either play them and be happy, or don't. They fulfilled your desire to see what a Male Viera looks like, now why is it not possible to accept the creators design?
    What do you mean they’re shorter? There’s nothing to prove that lol.
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  4. #254
    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Good_Haro View Post
    when none of us know what the devs' intent is.
    Except Yoshi P equated them to Male Elezen so yes we do know what the intent is.
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  5. #255
    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Unfortunately they are shorter then the females
    That's unconfirmed. I'm inclined to think that the male Viera in the promotional footage were not necessarily set at their maximum possible height. We won't know for certain until the benchmark is out - which isn't likely to be until closer to the expansion's official release date.
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  6. #256
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    Rajesh Anand
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    Quote Originally Posted by Good_Haro View Post
    How on earth is 6'3" not tall? What planet are you living on? Also, if you're using anime as a standard, 5'10" is probably the absolute max height you'll see a pretty boy at.
    6'3" is tall in real life, but we're talking in-game height.

    Male Midlanders at max height reach 5'11".

    5'11" is a fairly tall height in real life, but in this game it's not tall.

    You have to factor in the fact that male Midlanders are outsized by a large majority of the male races.

    Hrothgar, Elezen, Roegadyn, Highlander, and Au Ra are all taller than Midlander.

    In fact, the only male races Midlander is taller than are Miqo'te and Lalafell.

    If you look at the male height chart for all races, you'll see that Midlanders are way to the right next to Miqo'te.

    That's why even though their real-life height is fairly tall, it's not in this game. In this game they would be considered below average.

    And pretty boys can be tall, absolutely. They don't have to be short.
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  7. #257
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    Even if the bunnyboys are smaller than female viera, they're still tall! You'll still be a tall handsome man, so don't feel endangered because someone wants to play a girl that's taller than a man.
    Are the people complaining even going to play male viera?
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  8. #258
    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by VacantStare View Post
    Even if the bunnyboys are smaller than female viera, they're still tall! You'll still be a tall handsome man, so don't feel endangered because someone wants to play a girl that's taller than a man.
    Are the people complaining even going to play male viera?
    I think if such niche aesthetics were popular then we'd see a much higher number of female Roegadyn around than we currently do.

    I'm also inclined to think that those of us currently playing a male character are more likely to make the switch over to male Viera compared to those who are currently playing a female character.

    That aside, the reasoning proposed can easily be turned around. If male Viera are taller than their female counterparts then the female counterparts are still tall...correct?
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  9. #259
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    That aside, the reasoning proposed can easily be turned around. If male Viera are taller than their female counterparts then the female counterparts are still tall...correct?
    I appreciate you trying to twist my logic, but I'm sticking by what I said. Just let people have something that's slightly different when everything else already matches your wishes of having females smaller than boys.
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  10. #260
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    Rajesh Anand
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    Despite their real-life heights, this chart shows that male Midlanders are on the shorter side.

    Notice that max height female Viera is 75 inches tall, and max height male Midlander is 71 inches tall.

    So, if they made male Viera disproportionately shorter (like female Au Ra was), male Viera would max out at around maybe 72-73 inches.



    72-73 inches may seem tall to you if you only ever play races like female Miqo'te, female Au Ra, male Miqo'te, or male Highlander (which by the way, half of the population chooses one of these four. check the census for each server).

    But when you factor in the other races, 72-73 inches is simply not tall. It would be below average.

    Some of us really do just want to play a handsome, tall male race. We don't really have a whole lot of options right now.

    I'm not asking for male Viera to be made huge, like male Roegadyn or Au Ra.

    All I'm asking is that they be proportioned the same way that female Viera are. This means that male Viera would end up being between male Highlander and male Elezen.

    And as you can see on the chart, that wouldn't be insanely tall.

    I just don't want them to be so short that they blend in with Midlanders and Miqo'te.

    Again, some of us do genuinely like to play tall male races (as rare we probably are).

    Quote Originally Posted by VacantStare View Post
    Even if the bunnyboys are smaller than female viera, they're still tall! You'll still be a tall handsome man, so don't feel endangered because someone wants to play a girl that's taller than a man.
    Are the people complaining even going to play male viera?
    See, I feel like I'm being gaslighted. Am I really crazy for thinking male Midlanders are short?

    Is this perhaps a perspective thing? It has to be. I mean, I play tall male races in almost every game. It's a personal choice (I like the representation). So maybe the reason I see male Midlanders as being short is because my Elezen's always taller than them.

    Anyway, just to add a final note. I personally do not have a problem with females being taller than males. I love tall female races, absolutely. Whenever I see a female Roegadyn in the game, I do an inner cheer.

    I don't mind being shorter than the few female Roegadyn I encounter. And I look forward to being shorter than the female Hrothgar that are coming out.

    It really has nothing to do with this sexist, anti-tall woman thing. I totally embrace tall women. But I also enjoy playing tall male races that are conventionally handsome and not bestial. Male Elezen is the only one that does that right now. Male Viera could be another nice option for us.
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    Last edited by Hunky; 05-19-2021 at 11:04 AM.

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