Final Fantasy XIV and a Culture of Enabling

[KizuyaKatogami]

Those who want to learn will learn, and those who believe that ignorance is bliss will continue about their business regardless of what anyone says. I don't think these "easy mode" story scenarios are as detrimental as some may think. People have been able to level up fast for some time, even without buying boosts. This isn't anything new. With as casual of a game as this is, I would expect a fair number of players to be a bit below average but still able to get things done...which they do most of the time. It's just not always pretty. What it comes down to is personal expectations. Some have theirs set way too high. FF XIV is the wrong game for that, in my opinion. Some MMOs seem to go through a constant identity crisis, but the dev team knows exactly what FF XIV is and they design the game largely around a more relaxed and casual player base. I respect that.

I think the problem comes in when you start to question what is considered casual. I’ve seen people on the daily that don’t even aoe in level 80 dungeons. Or just stand around not casting anything as a healer. While the easy mode situations may not be *insanely* detrimental, it promotes bad play which is already a constant thing with this playerbase. I understand people not wanting to treat casual content like dungeons as serious as a raid or something like that which is 100% fine, but i expect people to know their rotations and to know they need to aoe in dungeons. Unfortunately lately it seems like every single day i queue up for roulettes i get at least one dungeon run with a dps or healer that isn’t aoeing which just ends up wasting everyone’s time, and 9 times out of 10 when i offer advice they return it with hostility. There needs to be SOME kind of change in the game whether it’s them creating some kind of gameplay wall that requires people to understand dungeon fundamentals or what. Unfortunately i don’t see this happening because Yoshi P said he wants to streamline dungeons even more which...i genuinely don’t even know how that’s possible given how easy this expansions dungeons have been.

[SieyaM]

I think the problem comes in when you start to question what is considered casual. I’ve seen people on the daily that don’t even aoe in level 80 dungeons. Or just stand around not casting anything as a healer. While the easy mode situations may not be *insanely* detrimental, it promotes bad play which is already a constant thing with this playerbase. I understand people not wanting to treat casual content like dungeons as serious as a raid or something like that which is 100% fine, but i expect people to know their rotations and to know they need to aoe in dungeons. Unfortunately lately it seems like every single day i queue up for roulettes i get at least one dungeon run with a dps or healer that isn’t aoeing which just ends up wasting everyone’s time, and 9 times out of 10 when i offer advice they return it with hostility. There needs to be SOME kind of change in the game whether it’s them creating some kind of gameplay wall that requires people to understand dungeon fundamentals or what. Unfortunately i don’t see this happening because Yoshi P said he wants to streamline dungeons even more which...i genuinely don’t even know how that’s possible given how easy this expansions dungeons have been.

You must have terrible luck then because I run roulettes 5 or 6 times a week and never see any of this.

[Awha]

You must have terrible luck then because I run roulettes 5 or 6 times a week and never see any of this.

Wait you have never seen a player not use AoE's before, or a healer that does nothing between heals? A tank doing single pulls in an expert roulette? A part of me finds that fairly hard to believe, or maybe you just have ungodly luck to say you never seen any of it.

Not saying you have to view such things as underperforming but to say one has never seen such things seems more like the outlier instead of the other way around.

[Vahlnir]

You must have terrible luck then because I run roulettes 5 or 6 times a week and never see any of this.

Either you have the best luck ever or you're lying. It happens. I wouldn't say it is constant but I see such things maybe two or three times a week to varying degrees. I usually run a lot of roulettes though, most of which go fairly smooth.

[Arillyn]

You must have terrible luck then because I run roulettes 5 or 6 times a week and never see any of this.

I don't see it nearly as often as some in this thread are making it seem to happen. But I do see it from time to time - dps not using their aoes or healers standing there picking their nose when no heals are needed, a tank doing single pulls. I don't see it a lot, but it does happen and it is frustrating when it does.