Final Fantasy XIV and a Culture of Enabling

[Awha]

Well, yeah, it is pretty self-explanatory: Performance is based on what you are trying to accomplish, and what you're trying to accomplish is clearing the content, especially when the game doesn't reward you for doing anything extra to clearing the content. How you play is irrelevant as long as you can clear the content.

It depends on the person, sure the game may not reward you but it is a team game people should respect the time of others in the group by having a basic understand how to play their role. I have been in group where as a tank I have d/out damaged a SAM. Sure we cleared the content but objectively they failed their role as a damage dealer. Just like if a tank cannot hold aggro or a healer that does heal objectively fails at their role.

Or are we going to say that irrelevant cause they content was cleared? Also I have cleared content with tanks that refuse to hold aggro is it really safe to say they were competent players / did not under perform.

[LianaThorne]

Here's how I look at it: I don't think lazy play should be considered the norm but at the same time, it kind of should be recognized that there are many different types of people that play MMOs. Some people play it strictly as a way to have fun and they personally don't care about their DPS and others who tryhard in every dungeon and care about their output. Then there's also people in the middle who like to know what they're doing but aren't going to go full tryhard either. That's just how it is in any game community where there is content to cater to every playstyle: from end-game raiding to gardening and decorating.

I think that those who are super particular about the environment they want to play in should keep in mind that unless YOU personally create the environment that you want (whether by PFs, going with people you know or kicking mid-dungeon...which I don't agree with unless the person is griefing because new people exist and need to experience the content to progress) that you will ultimately deal with people of all playstyles in DF. Square also isn't going to lock out new players from old because:

1. How will they even learn or find motivation to improve if they can't complete content with only being matched with inexperienced players?

2. It's a toxic mentality.

I understand that it would be convenient to have every DF go super smoothly with only the best of the best in your party, but this game isn't meant for only the best of the best and definitely doesn't cater to only the best of the best. I think those who feel entitled to elite gameplay due to experience or skill should keep that in mind.