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  1. #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
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    Now you're just being anal about you think is more important between the two things. The point flew right above your head.

    Yes, I agree hairstyles for a playable race should hold higher priority on the dev's backlog. But the point me and many is trying to point out is SE is known by now to add things to the game with the "promise" that they will come back to add things to said system or feature in future patches. As a consumer and customer I expect that to happen in the near future. Not 5+ years down the line.

    Now I hope to us to get both hairstyles for your vieras and egiglamour for us summoners (and hopefully scholars) as well. I'm done talking about this cause it's like talking to the void.


    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherPerson View Post
    I think that's because people were told they were getting new hairstyles later on in Shadowbringers expansion, but we're on patch 5.5 (which means 2 years has passed since ShB started). Egi glamours are also a valid concern too, but people are more afraid of races getting the egi glamour treatment (aka the feeling of infinite hiatus) since this is about a character's avatar and that has a lot more character customization involved than changing egis since a majority of the cutscenes involve your character as a whole whereas changing egis may not be applicable if you don't play Summoner.
    Did they say they would add new hairstyle specifically in SHB or just in later patches?
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  2. #152
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    The point flew right above your head.
    No it didn't. I got it loud and clear. You didn't get what you want so Viera and Hrothgar shouldn't expect it as well. Lets be sure to use that as an reason for telling people in this thread not to expect any racial additions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    Yes, I agree hairstyles for a playable race should hold higher priority on the dev's backlog.
    Glad you agree.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 04-13-2021 at 12:51 AM.

  3. #153
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    Paragraphs 1 and partially 2: Those are arguments I have never made. Have I posted something to give you the impression I value thousands of threads on the same topic? Yes, scattershot threads don't work but you're not exactly helping anything by preaching to the choir in one of those scattershot threads. Clearly there is a culture that influences people's decisions to make these repeat threads instead of necroing, but that won't be addressed by an equally scatter shot response to it.

    Par 2 pt2: You're right, being new to the discussion doesn't necessitate a new thread. I'm not averse to necroing either. But for the person who googles asking why viera have no new hairstyles, and finds this thread, they're gonna see a lot of unhelpful stuff because of the metacommentary on forum etiquette. And yes if there were megathreads that wouldn't be a problem, but that's not a problem that gets solved by entering every repeat thread with a conversation about forum etiquette.

    In any case, we only agree about forum etiquette here. None of it relates back to my original comment to you though, none of it is an interesting discussion to have because it's been had so many times now and will continue to be had as pointlessly and scatter shot as the threads they appear in, so going back to my original point...

    Final paragraph: So...it's tit for tat? Erecting a strawman isn't really a good answer to a strawman imo. That's a good way to kill a discussion through polarizing people against each other. But anyway, I've said my piece, and you seem more interested in talking about the issue of scatter shot threads anyway so I'll get out of your hair and back to lurking. Have an excellent day.
    Metacommentary on forum etiquette wouldn't exist in the first place if people didn't feel the need to create duplicate threads every single time we have a hairstyle.

    Oh dear, let me pay special attention to this last bit. No the use of those examples were not tit for tat, contrary to your belief and neither was it a strawman, not even remotely, those examples were used expressly to highlight the absurdity of the claim that the original post was made by even trying to make the comment that any of the "you're entitled"; which hasn't even been exhibited in the entire thread, either implied or explicit and to show they were mischaracterizing the comments being made by people, construing them as "They're calling us entitled". Perhaps I should've explicitly mentioned this in my original post. But then I feel had you took the liberty to read the initial post resulting in this chain of replies, you probably would have understood.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 04-13-2021 at 12:57 AM.

  4. #154
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violet_Galaxy View Post
    Just give it up and buy a fantasia already. SE got you, they got me, they got everybody. You'll feel better.
    Yea sis/bro, just give them more money even though they do a thing that you dislike....
    Do you know how dumb that sounds?
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  5. #155
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    You didn't get what you want so Viera and Hrothgar shouldn't expect it as well. Lets be sure to use that as an reason for telling people in this thread not to expect any racial additions.
    You're just twisting my words into something I never stated.
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  6. #156
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrpheusKappa View Post
    Yea sis/bro, just give them more money even though they do a thing that you dislike....
    Do you know how dumb that sounds?
    dwindling numbers of people that are Viera would make a very specific point that people are not expressly happy with the situation of Viera. So no, it isn't dumb.
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  7. #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    dwindling numbers of people that are Viera would make a very specific point that people are not expressly happy with the situation of Viera. So no, it isn't dumb.
    That would give them more of a reason to ignore us because we’d be more of a minority of the playerbase than we already are, as well as giving them $10 to do so.
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  8. #158
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunniEclair View Post
    That would give them more of a reason to ignore us because we’d be more of a minority of the playerbase than we already are, as well as giving them $10 to do so.
    You mean to tell me if Viera numbers didn't dwindle over time, that they wouldn't be questioning why? I don't think so. They would look for reasons to entice people to use the race, as well as looking at reasons for the dwindling population, probably.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 04-13-2021 at 01:08 AM.

  9. #159
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    dwindling numbers of people that are Viera would make a very specific point that people are not expressly happy with the situation of Viera. So no, it isn't dumb.
    Money > amount of people playing viera/hroth in the company's eyes, by fantaing and giving them money to another race you are endorsing them not giving you hairstyles because:
    A. You are basically clapping for them adding new hairstyles to other races except yours by fantaing to that race because of the new hairstyle, meaning that them giving other races hairstyles and not your works for profit.
    B. If the viera playerbase is small why would the company bother catering to them? As long as the release stuff for the majority (aka in that situation other races) and please the majority with new additions they will feel good with themselves.
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  10. #160
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    Just give Viera a super desirable hairstyle and never give it to any other race ever.

    Give them Tifa's or A2's hairdo and when people complain about it we can say "just fantasia :^)"
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