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    Quote Originally Posted by RolandDebreton View Post
    Also, just because I know it will make you anti-reference people's heads explode I present a link to images of a character who appears in both FFXIV and FFXI - may God have mercy on your souls.

    http://bandofthewhitehawk.enjin.com/...88/album/37643
    Right on.

    There have been many lesser characters (Biggs and Wedge, Montblanc), monsters (Demon Wall, The four fiends, Chaos), items (Dark Matter, Rat's Tail, Orichalcum) and other things that by nature of their repetition in the series have become part of the general FF mythos.

    We don't really have anything to worry about at this point. We don't even know for sure what Yoshi-P meant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RolandDebreton View Post
    Also, just because I know it will make you anti-reference people's heads explode I present a link to images of a character who appears in both FFXIV and FFXI - may God have mercy on your souls.

    http://bandofthewhitehawk.enjin.com/...88/album/37643
    Oh snap!
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    Never understood how a few of you allow your emotions to get the best of you. Are you that irrational IRL or does the security and privacy of the internet allow you to blow things completely out of proportion?

    It's cool to speculate, discuss, imagine, whatever. But maybe it's best not to get angry until there's at least a bit more info?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedAffinity View Post
    It's cool to speculate, discuss, imagine, whatever. But maybe it's best not to get angry until there's at least a bit more info?
    People like you need to stop assuming anger from peoples posts. Just because a person writes passionately about a topic does not mean they are angry. Strong language is necessarily when discussing things in text because you cannot use voice inflection.

    That being said, Nostalgic names and Locations inspired by previous games would be fine. But if you take the statement as it is literally posted, it is saying they would take literal chunks of previous Final Fantasies and place them into this game. That is entirely unacceptable and a complete violation of the fundamental principles of the series that the Fan Base has come to expect.

    This game paired with XII and XIII has, by SE's own admission, done significant harm to the series reputation. This Series Most Significant Principles are that every Numeric Iteration of Final Fantasy will have an Original World, with Original Characters, in and Original Story. To violate these principles would serve only to do further damage to the series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    People like you need to stop assuming anger from peoples posts. Just because a person writes passionately about a topic does not mean they are angry. Strong language is necessarily when discussing things in text because you cannot use voice inflection.

    That being said, Nostalgic names and Locations inspired by previous games would be fine. But if you take the statement as it is literally posted, it is saying they would take literal chunks of previous Final Fantasies and place them into this game. That is entirely unacceptable and a complete violation of the fundamental principles of the series that the Fan Base has come to expect.

    This game paired with XII and XIII has, by SE's own admission, done significant harm to the series reputation. This Series Most Significant Principles are that every Numeric Iteration of Final Fantasy will have an Original World, with Original Characters, in and Original Story. To violate these principles would serve only to do further damage to the series.

    Do you speak for every subscriber? You'd make for a good game critic, you treat you own opinion as objective fact.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    This game paired with XII and XIII has, by SE's own admission, done significant harm to the series reputation. .
    SE admitted to FFXIV doing harm to the series, and they have recognized that FFXIII has - considering the bad reviews and negative impressions - but I have yet to hear SE claiming there was anything wrong with FFXII which sold more than FFIX and was better received by the JP press than FFX.

    I'd be hard pressed to lump FFXII in with the last two games - It was really a masterpiece with a slightly flawed combat system and a somewhat rushed ending.

    -- back on topic.

    I'm certainly not in favor of taking chunks of landscape from other FF games and shoe-horning them into Hydaelyn. But I don't think that is at all what he was talking about.

    Wait and see. There's no point in getting all worked up when we don't have all the facts. (Japanese to English is never a perfect translation)
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    Last edited by Zantetsuken; 02-15-2012 at 09:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    People like you need to stop assuming anger from peoples posts. Just because a person writes passionately about a topic does not mean they are angry. Strong language is necessarily when discussing things in text because you cannot use voice inflection.
    I understand what you're saying... but the internet isn't the first iteration of text-only communication
    Truth is... A LOT can be inferred from word choice and context.
    When you read Shakespeare... He doesn't use emoticons to express Hamlet's anger at Gertrude marrying Claudius. That is derived specifically from the text relative to the context of the situation.
    All I'm saying is you don't necessarily have to imply something for people to infer meaning in it.
    Its the burden of the writer to make sure his point comes across clearly
    If everyone takes it the wrong way... then maybe that's how you wrote it
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    SE admitted to FFXIV doing harm to the series, and they have recognized that FFXIII has - considering the bad reviews and negative impressions - but I have yet to hear SE claiming there was anything wrong with FFXII which sold more than FFIX and was better received by the JP press than FFX.

    I'd be hard pressed to lump FFXII in with the last two games - It was really a masterpiece with a slightly flawed combat system and a somewhat rushed ending.
    Video game press have absolutely no credibility... (The Japanese press is significantly worse though. Famitsu's ratings are laughable) but IGN called XIII-2 a big improvement over XIII and gave it an 8 but they had originally given XIII a 9 or something, you know it's all bogus at that point.

    There were a lot of positives about 12 though, I just found it incredibly boring. Graphics were sick and environment was more lively than I've ever seen in an RPG but the overall game play was lacking. The story could not draw me in either, the 10/10 stories was something they lost when Sakaguchi left, without him it's like SE tries force drama out of their stories that isn't there. It's like in 13 you have everybody running around whining about how bad they feel but there's really no reason for us the player to care about it. It was hard to play 12 without getting that tired feeling the whole way.
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    Vaan was the only thing wrong with XII imho. He wasnt even an original idea. But nooooo we had to have a character to experience the world through like Tidus, said the SE higher ups....

    Should have just followed Balthier and started with his escape from being a Judge to everything else, leaving out the child.

    And as a side note, I personally feel that it is a mistake for SE to make these international versions of games and not put them out outside of JP. XII izjs was amazing. X inter was fantastic (though finally getting that one in a hd port from what I hear)
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    Last edited by Volsung; 02-15-2012 at 09:58 AM.

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    Yeah basing somebody off tidus was the first mistake, if anybody from FFX they should have based vaan off of Auron. Overall I enjoyed X but playing it now and it's like all I want are for Tidus and Rikku to stop talking, they were both so annoying. And not getting the whole pro athlete thing out of Tidus, he seems like he would belong more in a boy band.
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