RP Party finders being reported AGAIN without so much as a reason.

[EtherRose]

Um how? I don't go to those type of venues, either on Primal or on Balmung.

Oh trying to do some stupid "gotcha". Insert eye roll here.

I equate ERP with brothels in my brain lol. I guess they don't have to be the same. I don't go to ERP type events/venues.

What? You're kidding right? A Brothel is a place to visit prostitutes - in this instance that's ERP. You literally said you don't "Frequent" Brothel Venues which means you do go to them just not often. Then you state that you don't go to ERP events/venues. You contradicted yourself then want to play dumb. It ain't a "Stupid gotcha" moment. It's basically calling you out on your contradiction.

[BigHoffie]

you don't "Frequent" Brothel Venues which means you do go to them just not often.

This is wrong... I'm not sure you understand who is playing dumb here.

[Vahlnir]

This is wrong... I'm not sure you understand who is playing dumb here.

I mean, as far as the literal definition they are correct. But I'm guessing the person they are responding to didn't mean it quite like that. Or they are trying to walk back their statement. Who knows. lol

I didn't mean it like that. Not walking back anything lol

There you go.


Dang post limit.

[Breezelyn]

36 pages of arguing/debate that isn't going to be taken seriously at the end of the day. This is why SE caters to their JP playerbase than their western counterpart. I can see why they stay far, far away from the English forums. No matter what you do, ERP is going to be around. Try to stomp it out, people will fight back harder and find other ways to do it. Possibly even ways that could be considered worse. 18+ RP doesn't always mean "ERP" is taken place at a venue. Some venues don't even have that option, but just want a more adult/mature crowd. These venues probably don't want to deal with sqeakers or a younger audience. Just because a PF ad has "18+ RP" doesn't mean they have erp on the side. Take each PF AD with a grain of salt.

Minors are curious little shits and will wander into territory that isn't for them. All of us were like that when we were teens. It's a given. You can try and guide to the best of your ability. They may be exposed to things that isn't technically "minor friendly". It's how it is anywhere on the internet. When I was young, I was regulated (even if the internet was technically 'young' then) with parental controls or an account with said controls on what I could access. It's the responsibility of the parent(s) to guide their child(ren) in the right direction. That's just how it is.

At the end of the day, mature RP/ERP will be in any MMO, not just here. Even with cracking down, people will continue to find ways to do it. RP PF ads shouldn't even be targeted unless it actually has disturbing content. If it is found that there is illegal activity, contact local authorities/report to SE, so they can take appropriate action. Arguing on a game's forum about how righteous and virtuous you are about "protecting the children" isn't going to sway anything.

I will not reply to any quotes. I have said my piece, agree to disagree. Disagree, whatever. o7

[Arillyn]

I mean, as far as the literal definition they are correct. But I'm guessing the person they are responding to didn't mean it quite like that. Or they are trying to walk back their statement. Who knows. lol

I didn't mean it like that. Not walking back anything lol

[Arillyn]

What? You're kidding right? A Brothel is a place to visit prostitutes - in this instance that's ERP. You literally said you don't "Frequent" Brothel Venues which means you do go to them just not often. Then you state that you don't go to ERP events/venues. You contradicted yourself then want to play dumb. It ain't a "Stupid gotcha" moment. It's basically calling you out on your contradiction.

You can get all indignant if you want to. I don't go to ERP events or venues. I don't engage in ERP at all. My word choice may have not been the best, but bottom line is I don't do ERP or go to places where ERP happens. I hope that clears things up for you as you seem quite upset. I also don't think ERP should be advertised in PF or in shouts.

[Saefinn]

What? You're kidding right? A Brothel is a place to visit prostitutes - in this instance that's ERP. You literally said you don't "Frequent" Brothel Venues which means you do go to them just not often. Then you state that you don't go to ERP events/venues. You contradicted yourself then want to play dumb. It ain't a "Stupid gotcha" moment. It's basically calling you out on your contradiction.

My guy, it's not uncommon for people to say "I don't frequent" to mean "I don't visit".

If you've visited a place 0 times then you've not frequented it, because you don't have a frequency by which you have visited. That's how it's understood in that context.

You've taken an inferred meaning here, where if they're not visiting frequently then they must be visiting infrequently. Which I felt what they meant was immediately clarified.


But what they said is not a contradiction.

[BigHoffie]

I mean, as far as the literal definition they are correct. But I'm guessing the person they are responding to didn't mean it quite like that. Or they are trying to walk back their statement. Who knows. lol



There you go.


Dang post limit.

To frequent is to go often, yes. To "not frequent" doesnt automatically mean that they do something, just not often. If I say that I didn't kick 10 people in the shins and then later say that I didn't kick anyone in the shins, would you assume that I originally meant that I'd kicked 9 people in the shins and was contradicting myself? This is pretty much the definition of pedantry.

[BunniEclair]

36 pages of arguing/debate that isn't going to be taken seriously at the end of the day. This is why SE caters to their JP playerbase than their western counterpart. I can see why they stay far, far away from the English forums. No matter what you do, ERP is going to be around. Try to stomp it out, people will fight back harder and find other ways to do it. Possibly even ways that could be considered worse. 18+ RP doesn't always mean "ERP" is taken place at a venue. Some venues don't even have that option, but just want a more adult/mature crowd. These venues probably don't want to deal with sqeakers or a younger audience. Just because a PF ad has "18+ RP" doesn't mean they have erp on the side. Take each PF AD with a grain of salt.

Minors are curious little shits and will wander into territory that isn't for them. All of us were like that when we were teens. It's a given. You can try and guide to the best of your ability. They may be exposed to things that isn't technically "minor friendly". It's how it is anywhere on the internet. When I was young, I was regulated (even if the internet was technically 'young' then) with parental controls or an account with said controls on what I could access. It's the responsibility of the parent(s) to guide their child(ren) in the right direction. That's just how it is.

At the end of the day, mature RP/ERP will be in any MMO, not just here. Even with cracking down, people will continue to find ways to do it. RP PF ads shouldn't even be targeted unless it actually has disturbing content. If it is found that there is illegal activity, contact local authorities/report to SE, so they can take appropriate action. Arguing on a game's forum about how righteous and virtuous you are about "protecting the children" isn't going to sway anything.

I will not reply to any quotes. I have said my piece, agree to disagree. Disagree, whatever. o7

I cannot stress this enough: the GMs don’t care if you ERP in private. They aren’t trying to “stomp it out”. This was not some sort of ERP “sting”- nobody from the venue was pulled into gaol for participating. It was literally just the people hosting the public PF, all three of which openly offer ERP services listed on the websites they linked to in their PF directly.

How about instead of fighting back harder you just, idk, don’t advertise it in PF when you have been asked not to? Whether it was direct or indirect doesn’t matter. If PF is the issue then just use another avenue for advertising.

“Even with cracking down, people will find other ways to do it.” Yeah, this is literally all that is currently being asked of these venues. Find other ways to do it.

[MilkieTea]

What? You're kidding right? A Brothel is a place to visit prostitutes - in this instance that's ERP. You literally said you don't "Frequent" Brothel Venues which means you do go to them just not often. Then you state that you don't go to ERP events/venues. You contradicted yourself then want to play dumb. It ain't a "Stupid gotcha" moment. It's basically calling you out on your contradiction.

To frequent is to go to often, yes, but that doesn’t mean that when someone says they “don’t” frequent that they do the opposite.