Why am I typically last priority for Main Scenario roulettes??

[Bsrking5]

They don't get priority.. the Duty Finders priority is Making full groups. Sometimes you'll find you can be waiting even longer in a party that you would solo. as 2 or 3 queuing parties might not be matchable.

party a might be 2 tanks 1 healer.
party b might be 2 healers and 2 dps
party c might be 1 tank 1 heal and 4 dps

The Duty Finder cannot put those 3 parties together in the queue so they're all stuck waiting. and while you may think party c may have a super fast queue its not always the case if alot of the people queueing as tank and healer are also in a party with a dps friend..

Ya but those larger party are not the norm. Its usually 1 healer/tank and 1-2 dps. Party C thou is likely the slowest since full 4 dps groups leave no room for the high demand roles queueing with a overflowing roles(usually dps). A party of 2 tanks and 2 healers and x dps is usually the fastest since a lot of dps will solo queue too, generally speaking.

Its all about making groups not necessarily queue order but when it has multiple that fit, it will take from queue order.

[Catwho]

When I was at at FanFest in 2014, I got to see this happening in real time in real life when it came to the Odin trial (when it first came out and was still very hard.)

A group of 3 friends together had 2 DPS and a tank. The organizer at the front of the line would then look for groups with a healer to help fill it out, then should for whatever stuff was remaining to fill in the party until there were 2 tanks, 2 healers, and 4 DPS. Sometimes friends would willingly break up their party if they had an excess of DPS and only one DPS was needed, because that quite literally meant their friend would get to skip a huge long line.

It was really fascinating to see it in action.

[Nafreyu]

There's a difference between system automation, and individual/group bias though.

[Vahlnir]

Oh so parties get priority, that explains things, it would make sense people would abuse that in order to get ahead in the ques, especially the people that would be specifically waiting for the reset to que.

How DARE players play with others in an MMORPG!

On a more serious note, get over yourself.

[Ralph2449]

How DARE players play with others in an MMORPG!

On a more serious note, get over yourself.

Nobody has any issue with that, but if by using a group you get to literally cut in line and push back people you were there before you then I stand by the term abuse because being in a group does not equal an emergency to justify literally cutting to the front of the line and thus pushing people who could have been waiting longer further back.

If it was justified I wouldn’t use the term abuse.

[linayar]

Nobody has any issue with that, but if by using a group you get to literally cut in line and push back people you were there before you then I stand by the term abuse because being in a group does not equal an emergency to justify literally cutting to the front of the line and thus pushing people who could have been waiting longer further back.

If it was justified I wouldn’t use the term abuse.

It just depends on the queue. If you have a 2-player group of a healer and a DPS and the queue only needs a DPS, that group would be bypassed by a solo queueing DPS that queues in later than the group.

If it's not justified, then the game would've forced solo queueing. Instead, it's justified because the queue can form groups as fast as it can, and that benefits everyone in the queue in the big picture.

[Dzian]

Nobody has any issue with that, but if by using a group you get to literally cut in line and push back people you were there before you then I stand by the term abuse because being in a group does not equal an emergency to justify literally cutting to the front of the line and thus pushing people who could have been waiting longer further back.

If it was justified I wouldn’t use the term abuse.

I get the sentiment but abuse is a rather strong word. There not abusing the system..

Similar things can happen in other roulettes for example. You might be level 65. And queue for the 50-70 dungeon roulette. Be the number one dps in the queue and people behind you in the queue can get in first...

All it takes is one player to queue a level 70 dungeon for example to progress through there story and people behind you in the roulette queue who are 70+ will be matched with them where you won't because your only 65..

Same thing applies again to the alliance trials levelling and raid roulettes. Being first in the queue doesn't mean you will be in the next party the duty finder can make.

Can it be an inconvenience? Sure it can.

But abuse is a stretch.

[Vahlnir]

Nobody has any issue with that, but if by using a group you get to literally cut in line and push back people you were there before you then I stand by the term abuse because being in a group does not equal an emergency to justify literally cutting to the front of the line and thus pushing people who could have been waiting longer further back.

If it was justified I wouldn’t use the term abuse.

Except it's not abuse. It's the system working as intended by forming groups in an orderly fashion and getting everyone what they need.

[Jojoya]

Nobody has any issue with that, but if by using a group you get to literally cut in line and push back people you were there before you then I stand by the term abuse because being in a group does not equal an emergency to justify literally cutting to the front of the line and thus pushing people who could have been waiting longer further back.

If it was justified I wouldn’t use the term abuse.

No one is cutting in line.

Every role has its separate priority waiting list. When a group has someone reach #1 on the list for their role, they're next to go. Because they're a group that queued together, they go together. SE isn't going to split up a group of friends.

It's only abuse if that player who reached #1 first then ditched the group as soon as they got in the instance.

[MagiusNecros]

Groups get priority over a single person. Always been this way. Then it gets to Tanks and Healers because those are in shorter supply then DPS.

So if you join a queue at reset by yourself and a bigger group joins a queue they get priority over you. And if it's say 2 DPS they just need to match up with a Healer and Tank instead of DPS. And if you are a DPS those slots are already filled.

It's not abuse. What you are experiencing is entitlement. Yours specifically.