Months of harassment

[Awha]

I will say getting rid of NN would barely be an inconvenience for new players. Since from my experience most new players have to be told about NN in the first place.

It will impact mentors and alts that use it as a general chat. That is why I say make it so NN is a general chat anyone can join remove the crowns and if people want to join they join. If they do not want to deal with bots or RMT either black list, run a script that auto Blocks players and phrases with certain words or do not join at all.

No need to have this self policed chat by the players. The frequency at which people get help probably would roughly be about the same since between the shitposting questions are answered. Even though most NN questions can be answered via google you lazy peons! :P

Though I have ran into this person he is not so bad. It is a person online try not to get outraged by what people say online. If I got pissed each time someone made an autism joke online I would have lost it by now.

In short yes they use slurs and like target people that represent a certain indienty and they feed into the feedback they get. People need to learn to accept what they are and not let me the views of others have a negative impact on their life. Trust me I get how cruel the world and people can be but only control we have is over our own actions and how we perceive what others say. No matter what people say we cannot control what others think or say but we can control the impact they have on us generally.

I have heard a lot of I insults and I have come to terms with the fact some people will not accept me or view what I am as a joke. That is on them.

In short do not let shitty people on the Internet or even in person dictate your own self worth and impact your life negativity in aspects you can control.

Sure if it happens at work or prevents you from getting job or apartment that is diffrent but in this moment we are talking about a video game, and you have control over that.

[Lanadra]

I will say getting rid of NN would barely be an inconvenience for new players. Since from my experience most new players have to be told about NN in the first place.

It will impact mentors and alts that use it as a general chat. That is why I say make it so NN is a general chat anyone can join remove the crowns and if people want to join they join. If they do not want to deal with bots or RMT either black list, run a script that auto Blocks players and phrases with certain words or do not join at all.

No need to have this self policed chat by the players. The frequency at which people get help probably would roughly be about the same since between the shitposting questions are answered. Even though most NN questions can be answered via google you lazy peons! :P

I didn't even know it existed until like a month ago.. and I started in June.

[Jeeqbit]

You used to be invited to it automatically but this invited bots, so now mentors are asked to do a player search of sprouts and invite them all to it, obviously skipping bots. How much this happens varies on each world, but people get in still if they take 2 months away and become a Returner.

[NanaWiloh]

One of the best solutions for dealing with troublesome players that I have ever encountered. Was in the old Neverwinters nights game, the server conole had 3 ban options player, IP, and cd-key. Server admins could ban not just your characters or Ip but ban your copy of the game from joining. Maybe its time SE and other companies running MMO put this idea to work, put a encrypted CD-key that the user cant see in the files. When they log on to the server the game attaches the key to whatever account their on and sends the key to the server. If someone gets outline SE can ban the account and their copy of the game. Thus forcing said troublesome player to buy a new copy of the game and install it as well since their old copy wont work. This option though would be for serious offenders players who dont get a clue after thier first one or two bans like the current culprit.

[Vaern]

I didn't even know it existed until like a month ago.. and I started in June.

I started a couple years back but I never heard about it until like a good year after that. Maybe it was written somewhere in some quests or I don't know and I didn't pay attention. Overall I've been doing fine without it.
But if it can help new players that are aware of it I don't think it's necessarily a good idea to just get rid of it, especially because of one person causing trouble..

[SturmChurro]

That ignores all the people it helps on a daily basis. You only have to visit around the worlds and watch each novice network for several hours to see how much help gets provided.

In a video I watched recently from a new player, it was noted as a highlight of why the game is good. One person I spoke to in a novice network recently said they wouldn't have continued playing if we hadn't brought them into there and answered all their questions and that it changed everything for them. I have plenty more of these sort of stories. You don't fix a small problem like spam by entirely removing the thing that is getting spammed.

I think NN harms more than it helps. For that matter, players could also use google if they have any questions - it's what I did. In it's current state NN is better off gone, and frankly so is the mentor system - in my opinion - ! It would solve many problems, including this one.

[Shin96]

I will never understand how some people can get away with behaviour like this but others get a warning for using a word taken out of context. They need to remove NN and no one would miss it. At this point there's enough resources on various platforms to get people started. Therefore it bears little to no significance on this game, apart from Mentors wanting to feel validated by newer players.

As with anything, you need to have evidence or proof. You can make a case for about anything but you ought to have clear proof that this player exists and that they have wrongly conducted themselves this way. If you have such proof, submit it to a GM and if they decide to take no further action, make it a public issue and they will be forced to take a look at it. Often times that will pressure them enough.

I'd also like to add that if this person went under the radar for so long, it might be because the GM's either don't care or are corrupt. SE is very strict about enforcing their ToS most of the time so this is very suspicious behaviour if it went on for so long as it did.

[SerenityChiba]

WELP. This is the SECOND time he has directed his harassment/assault towards me personally, vs a generalized audience. This has gone way out of hand, and NEEDS to be dealt with. People get permabans for offenses far less extreme than this, and yet this person is STILL harassing myself and many others on Aether, for MONTHS. There has to be a permanent solution for this. It is affecting my gameplay, everyone else's gameplay (whether they want to admit it does or not), and potentially leaving a bad taste in new players' mouths' that are coming into the game, only to see extreme behavior like this. I blocked out the offenders name and friends' names, but did not block my name, because it's not revealing another player's name. The lack of action being taken is inappropriate, especially for a company as massive as Square Enix.

https://imgur.com/a/0n8hY5Y

[Mhatti]

I will never understand how some people can get away with behaviour like this but others get a warning for using a word taken out of context.

Then I suggest actually bothering to read the thread you're commenting on. As over a dozen people have clearly stated, he's avoiding bans by making new trial accounts over and over with a VPN to get around IP bans.

As with anything, you need to have evidence or proof. You can make a case for about anything but you ought to have clear proof that this player exists and that they have wrongly conducted themselves this way. If you have such proof, submit it to a GM and if they decide to take no further action, make it a public issue and they will be forced to take a look at it. Often times that will pressure them enough.

I'd also like to add that if this person went under the radar for so long, it might be because the GM's either don't care or are corrupt. SE is very strict about enforcing their ToS most of the time so this is very suspicious behaviour if it went on for so long as it did.

Again, everything you just said has already been addressed. Hell, there are even screenshots posted that aren't even more than a day old, yet.

Honestly.

[Kaurhz]

WELP. This is the SECOND time he has directed his harassment/assault towards me personally, vs a generalized audience. This has gone way out of hand, and NEEDS to be dealt with. People get permabans for offenses far less extreme than this, and yet this person is STILL harassing myself and many others on Aether, for MONTHS. There has to be a permanent solution for this. It is affecting my gameplay, everyone else's gameplay (whether they want to admit it does or not), and potentially leaving a bad taste in new players' mouths' that are coming into the game, only to see extreme behavior like this. I blocked out the offenders name and friends' names, but did not block my name, because it's not revealing another player's name. The lack of action being taken is inappropriate, especially for a company as massive as Square Enix.

https://imgur.com/a/0n8hY5Y

I almost cringed into another dimension looking at that image. Gross on so many levels. Personally, hope it gets reported and just gets outright escalates to losing his service account with any other service accounts attached to the same IP getting banned.