Will there be an official response about Party Finder advertising?

[xxmiamorecadenza]

Interestingly enough, I've seen a recent reddit posting with someone whose account and postings were intent on actively reporting 'ERP' venues.

I'm apathetic about the whole thing. But it'll be interesting to see if SE squashes the advertisements completely.

It'll make for a fascinating development, at the very least.

[Bsrking5]

Nope, in fact they will try and let it fade away. Like as if not talking about something makes it better.

[cr2032]

There has been an official response already. There was some internal mix up, it's perfectly fine to advertise RP in PF.

[Saefinn]

The official response to me was clear, but unfortunately it doesn't do enough to stop idiots dogpiling and using it as an excuse. Heck I suppose not everybody reads the forum or even agrees with the outcome and may take it into their own hands. Report the heck out of these people, it's harassment at the end of the day and so long as you're squeaky clean then it shouldn't be an issue as it looks like it is fine to use the PF for this purpose.

Sure it means they're wasting GM time if these reports are malicious and don't bear fruit. Fortunately, harassment is against ToS so action can be taken against them.

As long as you're not breaking ToS in your PF you should be fine. This was one GM's mistake rather than anything official. This includes keeping it legal, for the ERP side of things "legal" is the big emphasis YoshiP made in an interview.

But from a personal note, if you are going to use the PF or shouts for ERP make every step of precaution to avoid underaged participants and of course oust anybody who is doing something dodgy. I know people there is a level of self policing in those communities, but I think this is the biggest concern about when it comes to ERP, this aside from the people who just think it's "ick". But the way I see it, there is an advantage to these communities having a good relationship with the moderation and GM's of the game to ensure nobody is doing anything illegal. As you rightly say in your OP, this stuff isn't going anywhere, whether people are open about it or whether it's underground and I think if people are open about it, it gives more room for people to oust any wrong doing within those communities.

[WoW]

Get rid of all these ads. PF is made to form parties to do game content. Not to set up an ad 24/7 with ilvl 999 so no one joins so you can keep your ad up. You have fellowships to spread that nonsense in. It's time to make PF great again.

[Saefinn]

Get rid of all these ads. PF is made to form parties to do game content. Not to set up an ad 24/7 with ilvl 999 so no one joins so you can keep your ad up. You have fellowships to spread that nonsense in. It's time to make PF great again.

It's not for 24/7 ads, I agree as especially they put a time limit on listings. In that case, use a Fellowship though improvements are needed to fellowship for sure. But somebody advertising an event about about to start or are running? I think it's a feasible use of the PF and of its "other" tab until such point they decide to add a "social" finder or have an public event section of Fellowship or a "social" section of PF. Because RP is still content, albeit player driven content (but makes use for many game features).

[GrimmH]

I want to add my two cents on this conversation. Besides the people missing the point, ignoring filters, in game settings, and plenty of other grand tools. This is an active crusade by people who waste their time because "Oh I don't like this!" Screw the fact I used a stawman. That's not my bloody point. The point is because a GM messed up, and other GMs had to fix the fools mistakes. But it took one to screw up and now Primal and Light are having active battles with Anti-Rpers. Yes Anti-Rpers. People are trying to justify their actions despite actually making things worse. For starters. CHILDREN AREN'T STUPID! A child can understand that 18+ means you need to be 18 years old or older for this venue. And if they don't know they can I don't know. Ask people. I find it insulting that people are blatantly missing the point. Are being trolls and think they are being funny when they aren't and people like the WoW guy who could be both a troll and legit about his claim. Certain ads on party finder are an issue. I personally don't like seeing a "Buy feet picks." or "Selling materials for X million gil." in the party finder. Yet there they are. And as much as those ads need to be nuked. They exist. What will I do about them. Filter them bloody out. This is exhausting and terrible. Its so bad,

Get rid of all these ads. PF is made to form parties to do game content. Not to set up an ad 24/7 with ilvl 999 so no one joins so you can keep your ad up. You have fellowships to spread that nonsense in. It's time to make PF great again.

That I can compare stuff like that to American Politics. CAN WE NOT! This is a video game. A place we all go to enjoy and have fun. To escape real life and real life politics like that. I want to play this game. I want to rp. I want to enjoy this game I spent money. This is just sad, and I feel exhausted. The fact that this is happening doesn't surprise me in the end. But since it directly affects me, and people I know, and People I don't know. I can only say I'm extremely disappointed.

So in the end. I'm going to play the way I want to play. Fun for everyone. Because that's the point of playing a Massive. Multiplayer. Online. Role. Playing. Game.

[Shinklet]

I'd imagine any response would be brand friendly and very obvious. But I'd expect the GM team never, ever, ever acknowledge ERP lmfao.

Something along the lines of "Thank you for bringing this to our attention, the relevant SGM's have been notified. PF's that are found to be violating any of the term's of service shall be removed. If you see any more, make sure to report them using the service desk.."

[AnnRam]

At this point devs should implement an additional finder called " RP Finder" or something like that so the Party finder can commit their purpose without getting flooded by adds.

[Kes13a]

I would love to see how this plays out. we have reported botting in droves, yet they are still here.

the whole RP thing is pretty low key, yet bashed heavily. people RPing doesnt exactly break the ToS... its just as many people enjoy RP, just as many vehemently hate it. Its been this way in mmo's for a long time. As usual, the people against it try and stop the RP'ers from their playstyle.

It would be interesting to see if SE did officially say anything, simply because this isnt cheating, yet for them to punish that would be proof they condone the people who do cheat, and are determined to stamp out what people do for fun