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  1. #491
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    Kyrosiris's Avatar
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    Rilgon Arcsinh
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    Adamantoise
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Taytay View Post
    That really defeats the purpose of a cut and dry ToS.

    The whole point of a cut and dry ToS is that there is no room for interpretation and the ambiguity is gone. If Section 6, rule 3a of the ToS states "If you are caught using ACT, you face the punishment of being banned" and then a GM catches you for using ACT and lets you know that you were in violation of Section 6, rule 3a, then there is literally nothing ambiguous about that.

    A cut and dry ToS gives GMs a handbook on how to operate and leaves out the whole emotional aspect that clearly at least one GM is acting out on.
    For what it's worth, sometimes you absolutely need a "we can get rid of you for any reason at our sole discretion" rule. I run a fairly large community discord and I recently had to permaban someone who, while not strictly in violation of any of our explicitly cut-and-dry rules, had been reported (with concrete proof) by several community members of harassment off-server, etc. to the point that my mods and I agreed that unilaterally banning them was for the betterment of the community as a whole.

    It's something that should not be used flippantly and absolutely NOT relevant for this situation, but I just wanted to gently point of order this as someone who's been on the other side of that screen.

    Also, I fully agree that the rules should be transparent to everyone involved. The notion that a GM could have a codified list of infractions that players are not aware of is some seriously WTF-level nonsense.
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  2. #492
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    Decoy_Wolff's Avatar
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    Waltheof Wenyasch
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    Famfrit
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KinDranex View Post
    Erp PFs =/= RP PFs. Two separate things, Stop joining them.
    I'm sure he is just some SE bootlicker with a purist mind set against roleplay because "I don't understand it" or "It grosses me out" or "I don't agree with it" That is the same kind of mindset that turns people into R*cists and H*m*ph*bes.
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  3. #493
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    RanRanTheCat's Avatar
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    Randall Ranland
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Taytay View Post
    Dude, you literally created an account to post in this very thread to tell the world how annoyed you are with roleplayers.

    Take your own advice.
    Excuse you, i mentioned numerously. At least 3 times did i mention that i have nothing against RP'ers. All i said was that i do not like people flooding the Party finder, and had a reasonable discussion there, and was proven wrong, and moved forward to something this thread should have been about.
    Then there is you.
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  4. #494
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    Malzian's Avatar
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    Kylrin Arresard
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by FelisDarwin View Post
    Still waiting for you to quote the section of the ToS that supposedly says how Party Finder can and cannot be used, like you said it did.
    It doesn't exist, nor does the specific FAQ that the GM quoted as being violated address the use of the PF in this manner.
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    The sum of all hunt arguments over early pullers: http://goo.gl/IFT9IE

  5. #495
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    FelisDarwin's Avatar
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    Felis Darwin
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    Lamia
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    The best part about that old chatlog is that it's fake. It's shrunk down to one line over the years because the long-form version of it is incredibly poorly constructed, and the language in it is bizarre to anyone whose interacted with GMs in this game. Not to mention all the bizarre compression artifacts that are in perfect rectangles around many of the lines of text.

    Here's the current snippet of it that's been circulating, run through a piece of software that increases contrast between areas of different compression.
    https://i.imgur.com/iNxXARc.png
    Please produce any written documentation from Squenix prior to this event saying that ERP was not allowed.

    Until you do, there is nothing to indicate the screenshot is inaccurate, much less "faked".

    Also get better at lying.

    Quote Originally Posted by Malzian View Post
    It doesn't exist, nor does the specific FAQ that the GM quoted as being violated address the use of the PF in this manner.
    Shhhh, I'm trying to make them say it.
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  6. #496
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    KinDranex's Avatar
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    Eclair Aryes
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    Leviathan
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    The best part about that old chatlog is that it's fake. It's shrunk down to one line over the years because the long-form version of it is incredibly poorly constructed, and the language in it is bizarre to anyone whose interacted with GMs in this game. Not to mention all the bizarre compression artifacts that are in perfect rectangles around many of the lines of text.

    Here's the current snippet of it that's been circulating, run through a piece of software that increases contrast between areas of different compression.
    https://i.imgur.com/iNxXARc.png
    All this "evidence" does is imply is its heavily compressed lol
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  7. #497
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    Titor's Avatar
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    Titor Jaraba
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    Balmung
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    I knew a player who would only talk in discord and never chatted/emoted in game since they had a few strikes and were terrified to lose their account.
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  8. #498
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    Malzian's Avatar
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    Kylrin Arresard
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by FelisDarwin View Post
    Please produce any written documentation from Squenix prior to this event saying that ERP was not allowed.

    Until you do, there is nothing to indicate the screenshot is inaccurate, much less "faked".

    Also get better at lying.
    This is as close as you'll get, which while not explicitly saying ERP isn't allowed heavily implies that it's not: "3.3 Profanity and Offensive Language. You may not use profanity or any language that a reasonable person would find offensive. The Game is for players aged 13 and older. You agree to behave accordingly."


    Quote Originally Posted by FelisDarwin View Post
    Shhhh, I'm trying to make them say it.
    >.>... "Blood from a stone."
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    The sum of all hunt arguments over early pullers: http://goo.gl/IFT9IE

  9. #499
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    Lil Imp
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    Goblin
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FelisDarwin View Post
    Please produce any written documentation from Squenix prior to this event saying that ERP was not allowed.

    Until you do, there is nothing to indicate the screenshot is inaccurate, much less "faked".

    Also get better at lying.
    I pose you this. How can you possibly effectively ERP without violating section 3.3 of the ToS? Is everyone who is ERPing somehow doing so in perfect innuendo so as to avoid violating section 3.3?
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  10. #500
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    Lil Imp
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    Goblin
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KinDranex View Post
    All this "evidence" does is imply is its heavily compressed lol
    The extremely stark separation in compression levels between the background and text indicate the text was added from a separate source.
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