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  1. #471
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    You don't make a very compelling argument considering the tedium of getting into BA in the first place. Besides, you can't attack people for preaching the availability of casual content like Bozja in general over Ultimates, whilst simultaneously trying to attack clear rates of Ozma vs Ramuh. All you do in this case is argue yourself into a corner, which in itself is an impressive feat, well done! There are some issues with BA in the first place, wherein you don't get the mount or achievement if you get sucked out of the platform, which is an inevitability if you die, so arguably, even more, have participated. But again, see italicized text.
    Honestly, I tried. Perhaps my tone could have been a bit more...civil, but it's frustrating trying to argue an opposing point of view like this when the other side doesn't want to hear it. I'm guessing someone said it pretty well earlier, this sort of debate doesn't end well. It can also get pretty heated. Might be best to just let this debate go, to be honest.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 02-16-2021 at 08:33 AM.

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    I love how we have devolved into complaining about the lack of content caused by a global pandemic. They probably cut out a bunch of stuff and Endwalker was pushed back to fall when all expansions have launched in Summers. I believe everyone needs to relax and do what they think is right. If you don’t like what they’re doing, unsubscribe and play something else. Basically vote with your wallets.
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  3. #473
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    This is why we can't have nice things. Smh
    If I were a dev I wouldn't post here either. lol Good Lord.
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    Wow that was like 10 posts deleted huh
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  5. #475
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    ShanaShirayuki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starflake View Post


    But most important for me personally, the raiding. We'll probably have three Unreal trials by the way by the end of the expansion? Again, it's a reused extremes which is using up resources. I just see so much in this expansion which could and actually should have given way to the Ultimate. But hey man, it's whatever for me. I lost 50 euros for no reason and I'm not touching the game till the next Expansion. SE is not your friend. They are greedy and they want your money. They don't love you.

    Speaking of Unreal, I find it hilarious when I see Legend players fail at Titan Unreal. They could have paid for clears, or they got carried. Either way, the titles are starting to have the stigma that mentor crowns have.
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    "SCREW IT GOING WHM AST CAN'T DEFEND THEMSELVES" -Noob Healer in Seal Rock 10/17/2015

  6. #476
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Honestly, I tried. Perhaps my tone could have been a bit more...civil, but it's frustrating trying to argue an opposing point of view like this when the other side doesn't want to hear it. I'm guessing someone said it pretty well earlier, this sort of debate doesn't end well. It can also get pretty heated. Might be best to just let this debate go, to be honest.
    Pretty much. This kind of discussions, no matter how "well-intended" at first, always turn into a garbage fest of mud or excrement throwing of toxic casuals vs toxic raiders as these two micro factions scream (and insult each other) louder than the normal-tempered members of both sides together.
    And I say that as a "filthy" low-skilled casual with a defining degree of laziness (and disinteresse) of gitting gud *shrugs*.
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  7. #477
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    Unreals are kind of just the same old extreme content and mechanics, like the effort to rebalance to current gear isn't that large as making a near 20-minute ultimate with modified and harder mechanics.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShanaShirayuki View Post
    Speaking of Unreal, I find it hilarious when I see Legend players fail at Titan Unreal. They could have paid for clears, or they got carried. Either way, the titles are starting to have the stigma that mentor crowns have.
    Titan Unreal is practically the same extreme from 2013 just with retuned hp, and some legends hadn't been in the game when it was relevant. Not exactly a comparison. legend btw is a normal meme for any death made in any content.
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  8. #478
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Honestly, I tried. Perhaps my tone could have been a bit more...civil, but it's frustrating trying to argue an opposing point of view like this when the other side doesn't want to hear it. I'm guessing someone said it pretty well earlier, this sort of debate doesn't end well. It can also get pretty heated. Might be best to just let this debate go, to be honest.
    Don't feel too reflective about it, this topic was a self-fulfilling disaster because ultimately the crux of it comes down to an unwinnable decision on the part of Square Enix, and one that would come down as a harsh reality for whichever party that would receive the short end of the stick.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 02-16-2021 at 07:49 PM.

  9. #479
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sathona View Post
    Im surprised ppl consider them lazy[just cause they dont get what they want]when they are in the constant developing expansions and post-patches at the same time.
    No I understand that. I also remember as a compensation that Viera would be getting new hairstyles to go into the game.

    Its just a shame that SE hasnt added a new hairstyle into the game since launch of ShB. Ever.
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  10. #480
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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2K21 View Post
    No I understand that. I also remember as a compensation that Viera would be getting new hairstyles to go into the game.

    Its just a shame that SE hasnt added a new hairstyle into the game since launch of ShB. Ever.
    Adding Viera and Hrothgar was a mistake. As YoshiP said it just adds a lot of unnecessary work to develop new equipment. Shame how they decide to add those 2 new races instead of just creating more glamour items.
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