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  1. #41
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    Daeriion Aeradiir
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    And Lost essence is dropped by S rank mobs, so unless you have Lost Death or are in a group to kill them you can't guarantee you have it available.

    Whereas Platebearer / Veteran can easily be farmed by the mobs right outside the camp entrance.
    Lost Incense is from Lost fragments of Caution, which can be bought by Clusters, which can be farmed solo in extreme scenarios. 1 Cluster nets you 5 fragments.
    After a single cluster farm I usually get like 30 of the lost incenses from opening cautions for manawalls. I was capped at 200 copies of LI on my 2nd day of cluster farming.

    Even if someone doesn't want to take the very small effort of joining a cluster farm group and practically afking their way to tons of free fragments, they're easily buyable on marketboards.
    It's ultra easy for any dps to be prepared to tank Delubrum. Only someone putting in literally zero effort wouldn't have Lost Incense + a defensive essence. Banner of Firm Resolve is if you just truly want to make yourself unkillable.

    Point is, Dps have literally zero issues tanking Delubrum or accessing the actions they need to do it if they put in even the slightest bit of effort to secure the actions, and compared to the many tanks that MT without any essence in there or don't even pop CDs for tank busters, an actually easier time. I've actually had more fun out-tanking the tanks in there on my SAM.
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    Last edited by Daeriion_Aeradiir; 02-15-2021 at 07:37 AM.

  2. #42
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir View Post
    Only someone putting in literally zero effort wouldn't have Lost Incense + a defensive essence
    Precedes by giving examples where effort is required.

    If I found you AFKing in any of my cluster groups you'd be quickly kicked and blacklisted.
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  3. #43
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    Jyn Willowsong
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    This. So i didnt use any of em for fates or anyhting in Bozja until i did castrum or DR, and even then i barely got any usefull ones.

    IF you have to either brute force learn by opening 100000 of them and write a list or google it, its bad design.
    last I checked hovering your mouse over a fragment gives you possible results, but that may just be when your purchasing them from the cluster vendor.
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  4. #44
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Precedes by giving examples where effort is required.
    You mean the effort needed TO UNLOCK AND GET INTO DELEBRUM TO BEGIN WITH? Think man.
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  5. #45
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    For those who might not know you can simply leave Delubrum if there is no tank and requeue. There is no penalty for leaving like other duties and the requeue is very quick generally. I will not pop any essences unless I'm sure the duty group is viable.
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  6. #46
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    Alinne Seamont
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    Goblin
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Oh yeah.. One time I had the audacity to ask people if they could use essences. I got into a huge argument, and got accused of "compelling playstyles", I wouldn't doubt I got reported. It's actually pretty ridiculous.
    I quite agree, that attitude is ridiculous. That isn't setting the bar too high. i wouldn't even quibble if someone wasn't using the best Lost Action, as long as someone made an attempt to help the run I'd be happy.
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  7. #47
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    Asuka Suzuhana
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bacent View Post
    Title. Got into an instance with like 20 DPS and 4 heals. No tanks.

    0/10 would program like this again.
    Say SE, if you impose something on us, do it well, please?

    Yesterday at the Castrum: 70% Heal, 3 tanks and the rest in Dps.
    I liked first boss's enrage very much.

    What a waste of time, so many tries and so many failures. Already that nobody is interested anymore...

    90 people in the instance and 90% of the people answer no castrum hype...

    Relic ShB at the bottom of the fun !
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  8. #48
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Viper Lv 100
    well all they have to do is let you change jobs in first section of Castrum/Delubrum then after that Area get the cant change Debuff
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  9. #49
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 72
    Nah, this is bojza, an alternate world where cleric stance exists again.

    Lost actions allows any color role to do other role things if they want or for party needs.

    If you as a Ninja wants to be a healer, by all means bring Cure IV.

    Aggro isn't limited to the blue tank role either. If a Scholar wants to tank, use Lost Incense. Easy enough.
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    Payadopa Astraya
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    Spriggan
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    Conjurer Lv 71
    I mean, that's what you get when most of the content is too easy and gets further nerfed the older it gets. People are confused that they can't brute force it anymore.

    And the moment you suggest something (in a nice way, mind) you have to fear to get reprimanded.

    The funniest thing to me is that the chest it right at the entrance so people just need to utilise it and (shocking, I know) communicate. But we're so used to Leroy everuthing that that's barely possible. Whether that's a community problem or on the devs or both is up for interpretation.
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