Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

[LisSquid]

Otherwise, you can shove it. I'm not going to act like I'm not excited for Hrothgar females nor am I going to stop sharing art depicting how great cat women are.

Thank you for your service. I'd only ask that you add credit to the pieces, though.

[Vahlnir]

If anyone's got a problem with all the cat women art there is a simple and easy fix for it ... just put me on your ignore list, and you will not see my post. Really, I invite you to if you feel it disrupts your enjoyment of this forum. Doesn't bother me 1 bit.

I'm literally 95% of the source of art in this thread, the other 5% comes from the 1 dude who likes buff furry gal art soooo it's really that simple.

Otherwise, you can shove it. I'm not going to act like I'm not excited for Hrothgar females nor am I going to stop sharing art depicting how great cat women are.

I think most of us get it by now. Hard not to. Might not hurt to take that excitement level down from 50 to a modest 20-25. You know, half strength. lol I don't want to add you to my ignore list, it is an extremely short list for me, but I will do what is necessary as I am still interested in this thread. No hard feelings at all, truly. But I will filter out the spam if I absolutely need to.

[SturmChurro]

It actually KILLS me!! I live near the sea so I want to wear the mermaid fins so badly. I cave, live in it, have the alt to play with it when I have the itching need of "I can deal with it. I can live with it." Just looking at the tail for too long just begins to tear at me, and I have to swap. Not to mention it clips into capes and other dangling effects (another reason I can't play miqo'te). Perhaps if they ever decoupled horns from faces I could stick to lizards.. Viera just offers me more of what I want with less design flaws (in my opinion).

That all aside, manish or not, I think I would much rather f hrothgar to be like lady roes. I like their build and sharp features. I just think they highlight a greater issue with body design in this game where everyone has kankles and wrists the size of their forearm.

Alt just doesn't work for me, I always go back to my au ra. It sounds like you actually like face 2 au ra quite a bit. I do too! I've played it several times on my main, and my alt is currently it right now (she's gorgeous), but it's really just not the same.. Yeah, I agree on tails. Specifically miqo'te's though. There isn't that much glamour in the game where an au ra's tail really clashes - it's the easiest to work with too. Admittedly, sometimes it can look nice. Sure, yeah, the capes on some of the new judge armor, but I didn't like them much anyway. Their other features are just too good to pass up! Always liked au ra, quite a bit.

Viera is great, them and au ra are my favorite races. If only it wasn't for their limited status.. I'd say no access to purchased/unlocked hairstyles, is a much bigger issue than au ra tails, or horns. That's me though. I have only grown more annoyed over time. I switched to viera day one ShB actually, was this exact au ra previously (old, original preset), but them being limited, especially on my MAIN just gnaws at me. I can't do it. Like, I just can't. Maybe on my alt, but I have OCD, and my alt and main have to be the same race, for some reason. (They both have the same birthday, and same diety too actually..)

Au Ra are a full race, and never have to worry "if I can use that hairstyle", "that new hat/helmet", etc. Especially with a new expansion coming up with a ton of new gear, that I BET YOU viera aren't going to be able to use. Like EVEN IF come May or whatever, they announce new hairstyles, they still have the issue of further support down the line... Won't be able to use new EW hairstyles, the EW headgear, and probably won't even be able to use artifact headpieces. IT SUCKS! Like I said, that's a bigger issue, and a much worse design flaw, in my opinion.

Moving on to female hrothgar, I am hoping reivaxe is actually right here, if they ever do come out with them. I'd like them to be more like the art, more hourglass shaped, a bit smaller than femroe. Femroe, frankly, just shouldn't be a basis.

Side note, your au ra actually reminds me of one of my xaela face 2 presets. (probably my favorite one):

There's a reason I liked her, your preset.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Femroe, frankly, just shouldn't be a basis.

Lies, FemRoe are all the Base

[LisSquid]

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I just hate the pincer horns more than I hate the face, to be honest. Face 3 au ra has so much character and sass to it. They look older and wiser with much more personality to me. I try to capture it in face 2 (Best horns by far) but after a while they just look so vacant to me. I have sort of learned to live without hats, and there is only one hairstyle that they've released in the past 5 years that I actually like (form and function, as you can see from my alt). Other than that? I prefer the way gear sits on Viera. Gowns are not as bulky and plump as on the shorter races, something I enjoyed very much about elezen, but they are better proportioned than our giraffe friends. Also, as a short woman, playing around as a 6'0" woman is very fun for me. Living the dream.. but ahem!


I don't think we have much of a chance of ever seeing bulky, beastly f hrothgar. They will definitely be very athletic looking, as you say with an hourglass figure. I'd be happy enough if they looked like Khajiit, but anyone thinking SE will give us Charr are not playing the same game I am.


I am also of the opinion that both f hrothgar and m viera are a matter of time, and not a matter of if. Not 6.0, for sure, but beyond that? They sound like something that is just an easy "We want to add something new that we know people will like." No risk like trying to pull Au Ra out of the woodwork and rolling the dice on reception. Also, the loophole of "no new races". Mechanically yes, they would be new races. At face value they can go, "No, no see they were just missing genders." To stop further demands of other races.

That's just how I would work it, anyway.

edit!:

I meant face 3 au ra. I made a big booboo.

[SturmChurro]

Lies, FemRoe are all the Base

Well, I wouldn't play femhroth either way, but I just feel like basing them off femroe would be an extreme disservice to the race. Not only would they be a beast race, they would also just generally look too masculine. Like, I'm sorry, but there is a reason femroe are like one of, if not the most unpopular race/gender in the entire game. Female hroths should at least have a chance!

I just hate the pincer horns more than I hate the face, to be honest. Face 3 au ra has so much character and sass to it. They look older and wiser with much more personality to me. I try to capture it in face 2 (Best horns by far) but after a while they just look so vacant to me. I have sort of learned to live without hats, and there is only one hairstyle that they've released in the past 5 years that I actually like (form and function, as you can see from my alt). Other than that? I prefer the way gear sits on Viera. Gowns are not as bulky and plump as on the shorter races, something I enjoyed very much about elezen, but they are better proportioned than our giraffe friends. Also, as a short woman, playing around as a 6'0" woman is very fun for me. Living the dream.. but ahem!


I don't think we have much of a chance of ever seeing bulky, beastly f hrothgar. They will definitely be very athletic looking, as you say with an hourglass figure. I'd be happy enough if they looked like Khajiit, but anyone thinking SE will give us Charr are not playing the same game I am.


I am also of the opinion that both f hrothgar and m viera are a matter of time, and not a matter of if. Not 6.0, for sure, but beyond that? They sound like something that is just an easy "We want to add something new that we know people will like." No risk like trying to pull Au Ra out of the woodwork and rolling the dice on reception. Also, the loophole of "no new races". Mechanically yes, they would be new races. At face value they can go, "No, no see they were just missing genders." To stop further demands of other races.

That's just how I would work it, anyway.

edit!:

I meant face 3 au ra. I made a big booboo.

I played a face 4 raen ONCE on my main. She actually looked pretty good, I see the pincer horns as like demon horns. I coupled it with the spiked tail. Not a bad look, though I think face 1/2 look better. Here's the thing about au ra, the faces were built with the horns that are attached to them in mind, like even if we could choose horns, they wouldn't necessarily look good, or look as good as you would think, on another face.

Viera look great, always thought they did. The only thing that ruins it for me is the limitations. Even if I won't necessarily use a style, I don't like that I'll be left out. I literally use this hair 95% of the time on my face 1 preset! It really depends on the glamour though, trust me I switch a decent amount between them - and when I switch, it's mostly due to glamour. Each race has their pros and cons when it comes to glamour. Like your bring up Elezen, I initially disliked them. I grew to like them, I still like them right now. I have considered switching to it again, for fun, but I really need to have some glamour prepped. They can look really good in very specific glamour, but that's the problem, just very specific glamour.. those proportions definitely suck...

That's a good thing, bulky and beastly f hrothgar, would look terrible. I actually thought female charr looked terrible, they tried to be beastly... but cute at the same time, it looked RIDICULOUS!

While I do think Male viera/female hrothgar will probably get released, I'm not holding my breath. Adding a new race comes with all sorts of problems, and personally, I'd rather see them added without the limitations. Rather for SE to figure out a way to overcome the limitations - though I doubt that would ever happen.

Face 3 au ra? Like the Ruby Princess. My alt was a face 3 xaela once. She looked pretty unique. As far as au ra go. It isn't used enough, for sure.

[DamianFatale]

Can we please not fight in our thread? I don't want to have it nuked like the male Viera thread was for a brief time.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Well, I wouldn't play femhroth either way, but I just feel like basing them off femroe would be an extreme disservice to the race. Not only would they be a beast race, they would also just generally look too masculine. Like, I'm sorry, but there is a reason femroe are like one of, if not the most unpopular race/gender in the entire game. Female hroths should at least have a chance!

Well yeah, its called a Niche, and Im part of that Niche of fewer people that likes this aesthetic. Frankly, them not being super popular and all over the place makes seeing them that much more special, because there arn't as many compared to seeing a bloody Miqote everywhere. No hate against them, just they are everywhere so its not special when I see one.

[reivaxe]

I think most of us get it by now. Hard not to. Might not hurt to take that excitement level down from 50 to a modest 20-25. You know, half strength. lol I don't want to add you to my ignore list, it is an extremely short list for me, but I will do what is necessary as I am still interested in this thread. No hard feelings at all, truly. But I will filter out the spam if I absolutely need to.

Person, you are not hurting me at all if you add me to your ignore list. I'm by no means "spamming", I go out of my way to find various SFW art of "female cat people" for a thread that supports the addition of "female cat people" to this game. I mean, regardless of how you feel about labels or furry art, any depiction of Hrothgar males or females is going to be furry art because they are an anthropomorphic (aka furry) race.



(Second guy is actually the first Japanese artist I've seen who plays and draws Hrothgar)


I do far more in this thread than post art though so what, want to prognosticate based on available data? I'm down, in fact I do that often in here ...

(Spoiler alert, some people have a strong investment in their vision of what they want them to look like and buck against this art. I have no such reservations and accept that a JPN company prob will do to them what they've done to every other female in the game and try to make them as pretty as possible with in the theme of their race)


As you can see they make it a point to show the difference in size and body shape compared to a Femroe. They have a feminine, slender hourglass shape unlike the wide shoulder and muscular looking Femroe.

Let's move on to the face shall we. They made sure to detail the Femroe face with all the key features of a Femroe face that are shared between all 4 faces. From the shape and placement of the nose to the shape of the face to the placement of the eyes and mouth, that's clearly a Femroe face.




Looking at the Hrothgar I read their faces as "possibly fairly flat". Every bit of Japanese media I've consumed tells me that a dot for the nose is an indication that it's a tiny nose and there's no strong nose bridge. Just my personal take on it buuuut I'd say it would be good to prep for that Ronso Fan art everyone posted to be the kinda face they go for.

(Ronso artist is here)


That's my take on that.

Part of the reason I'm posting furry art is that I'm the only 1 in this thread that's been trying to find art that's similar to their depiction in that official in game artist rendition of them. Pictures speak louder than words after all, so I've no clue how to better relay their possible looks than finding a good example to show in the sea of cat people art online.

I don't care to push my beliefs on what particular way they should look, I simply try to find out what they will likely look like based on what we have and what we've seen the devs do. If you got any thoughts about their possible looks then feel free to talk about them, this thread is about Female Hrothgar and showing support for them after all.

Will we get them? I went from "Prob not" to "I'm sure we will" after YP reassured us all that they want another 10 years and I reeeeaaally don't think they will let us go into 2031 still crying about "my boi buns and lion ladies!".

Balls in your court if you want to talk about something not related to this thread that's not about art, but by no means is me posting art of cat women in this thread a distraction from the topic of ... wanting cat women in this game.
If you want the topic to change then change it, but I find it silly to ask for less art post if you don't really want to offer up another topic of discussion.

Thank you for your service. I'd only ask that you add credit to the pieces, though.

I credit all the pieces actually! You just have to click on them. They take you to the twitter pages (I get most all the art from twitter).

[Qurho]

Well, I wouldn't play femhroth either way, but I just feel like basing them off femroe would be an extreme disservice to the race. Not only would they be a beast race, they would also just generally look too masculine. Like, I'm sorry, but there is a reason femroe are like one of, if not the most unpopular race/gender in the entire game. Female hroths should at least have a chance!

As a queer who would love to be crushed by a beautiful roegadyn woman, I have to admit that I don't really see how reusing the femroe frame for (theoretical) hrothgar women would be a disservice. It's not as though they have the exact same huge barrel chest and squat legs of the men.

Which, while I understand the want for female hroth to have minimal sexual dimorphism in a game that's really atrocious about it and would not mind such... But, speaking honestly, as much as I love my character I really hate how I have to fight to get a lot of glamours looking okay on him because of the above features, lmao.