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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    To be fair, they could be posting on an alt character or account. I am.

    Content which is significantly harder to organize, has no incentive beyond the initial clear and won't last until this expansion's conclusions for that precise reason. And no, this Ultimate is delayed. However, we're losing another since two were originally expected for Endwalker. Unless they release three Ultimates, we're losing content.
    Did they ever say that there was going to be 2 Ultimates in Endwalker or is this just magic 8-ball guessing because that was the plan for the current expansion? We don't know what is going to happen in the future or if they try something new with difficult content (Ultimates themselves are relatively new content), who knows. Second guessing just to be negative doesn't really help anyone right now.
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    Last edited by Steviejd; 02-07-2021 at 09:17 AM.

  2. #122
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    Honest question because I haven't read all 14 pages. Do a large portion of the playerbase actually do Ultimate tier raiding? Judging but I read on the first couple pages, far more people in FFXIV do Ultimate raiding than do Bozja.

    Seriously, is that true?
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  3. #123
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steviejd View Post
    Did they ever say that there was going to be 2 Ultimates in Endwalker or is this just magic 8-ball guessing because that was the plan for the current expansion? We don't know what is going to happen in the future or if they try something new with difficult content (Ultimates themselves are relatively new content), who knows. Second guessing just to be negative doesn't really help anyone right now.
    Because that's the precedence they set. We had two in Stormblood and were going to have two in Shadowbringers. It's not exactly a reach to say there would be two for Endwalker just like there is always three raid tiers, three Alliance raids, one EX Primal each patch and etc. There is zero indication whatsoever they were going to deviant from releasing two Ultimates. It isn't second guessing, but following their prior outline. If you haven't noticed, this game is incredibly predictable with its content releases.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    Bozja content is straight up garbage, not even the casual players enjoy it.

    Why even make a savage version of a 24 man raid that was aimed at casual players?!

    I want my money back SE. I only stay subbed this tier so I can get BiS for ultimate!
    Well, this is a whole new level of whining.
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  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Because that's the precedence they set. We had two in Stormblood and were going to have two in Shadowbringers. It's not exactly a reach to say there would be two for Endwalker just like there is always three raid tiers, three Alliance raids, one EX Primal each patch and etc. There is zero indication whatsoever they were going to deviant from releasing two Ultimates. It isn't second guessing, but following their prior outline. If you haven't noticed, this game is incredibly predictable with its content releases.
    Did the previous expansions have literal world-changing pandemics that halted development?

    I'm assuming that's what's causing them to have to cut this content.
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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Because that's the precedence they set. We had two in Stormblood and were going to have two in Shadowbringers. It's not exactly a reach to say there would be two for Endwalker just like there is always three raid tiers, three Alliance raids, one EX Primal each patch and etc. There is zero indication whatsoever they were going to deviant from releasing two Ultimates. It isn't second guessing, but following their prior outline. If you haven't noticed, this game is incredibly predictable with its content releases.
    If it's so predictable where were the Ultimates for Heavensward? It still is second guessing because they have changed content structures before, just not in a wildly different way. Maybe they try some new things with 6.x due to it starting a new arc of the story, maybe they don't even release the Ultimate that they were designing and they do something else with it and people get even more angry, who knows?
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    Because the ultimate designer and Bozja designer aren’t the same person I’d guess
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    Honest question because I haven't read all 14 pages. Do a large portion of the playerbase actually do Ultimate tier raiding? Judging but I read on the first couple pages, far more people in FFXIV do Ultimate raiding than do Bozja.

    Seriously, is that true?
    Wouldn't be surprised. Legend titles aren't even that rare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    Honest question because I haven't read all 14 pages. Do a large portion of the playerbase actually do Ultimate tier raiding? Judging but I read on the first couple pages, far more people in FFXIV do Ultimate raiding than do Bozja.

    Seriously, is that true?
    The amount of players who do Ultimate is a tiny fraction of those who do Bozja, it's not even remotely close. The complainers about Ultimate are just more vocal, but if the case was more did Ultimate, it would be prioritized much more. As it is, it is only made because it's so low manpower to do, using old assets and only really needing minor work, though testing and balancing is hard in current conditions.
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  10. #130
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    This is more of a Covid thing then a developers issue, they wanted to keep their people safe during the pandemic which lead to delay in content and making some tough cuts. Yes ultimate is very important for the raiding community but things happen, yes SHb has been kind of lacking but that's more so a pandemic issue which is out of their control. Just chill and be excited for 6.0 or simply stop playing this game specifically until they produce content you like btw bozja is awful lol but I digress
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