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    Quote Originally Posted by Shin96 View Post
    I see no reason to stay subbed anymore until the new expansion is released, which goes against anything considered on all "MMO" side of things.
    Not at all. Nothing about an MMO says you have to stay subbed for the entirety of an expansion. In fact, it's a positive thing about FFXIV that most things can still be done later (and usually easier) if you don't want to stay subbed at the moment. Those few things that might not be easier if done later, you can judge for yourself if you want to do them now or not.
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  2. 02-06-2021 06:38 PM

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    You can look on various sites that track achievements to see the numbers. Only about 6% of players have cleared Ultimates, so they’re definitely a small minority of the playerbade.

    Interestingly, by comparison, only about 0.1% of players have solo’ed PotD. This means that there’s a lot of folks who want semi-difficult content (Ultimates) but are not good enough / do not have the patience to do actually difficult content (soloing the deep dungeons). And it’s hilarious how salty they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shin96 View Post
    I find some issues with this argument. While the statement itself is true, if everyone would be doing this there would be less income for SE in general. If that's the philosophy you're going with, then why do they demolish houses in 1 month inactivity? Why is it that they create content for people to run like weeklies. Yes, I could only subscribe when I feel like it, but you *want* to be on the same level as everyone else. You want to gear up so you're ready to enter the new content. This in-between activity requires a sub from time to time, and there's a dynamic to it. Losing out on progress and having to spend more time on catching up can feel demoralizing.
    Housing is limited, so they have to demolish to make room for actual subscribers.

    Weeklies and timegated content are for people who will not rush through content and will play through the expansion over time, but you can make a level 70 character now and go through Shadowbringers without having to go through all of the grind of the entire Shadowbringers.

    And if you want to be on the same level as everyone else, that depends on the content and depends on you. If you don't want to do Bozja, for example, then you don't need to worry about catching up with Bozja.

    So to answer your initial question, while it's true that SE would be in trouble if everyone were to unsub, they know people are different and have different interests. That's why they create different types of content and Ultimate is just one content. And as long as enough of the players subscribe for whatever reason, they'll be fine.

    I, for example, would continue to subscribe as I am not participating in Ultimate so it being delayed doesn't affect me and I'm leveling an alt character and am interested to do some of the other 5.5 contents (whether with my main or alt) in April rather than wait until Endwalker to do them all together.
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  5. #34
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    Tiny player % does Ultimates, so of course they got pushed back. Sucks that it happened, but that's Covid.
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    Why not a simple delay, instead of cutting content?
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  7. 02-06-2021 07:14 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    Why not a simple delay, instead of cutting content?
    It is a delay. He clearly explained that. It is delayed till 6.1. I would much rather sacrifice this ultimate than the quality of the expansion that will end a story I have been a part of for the last 10 years. I know I am not alone in this sentiment.
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    While I don't like Bojza either... I do think it's fair if they have to allocate strained resources that they put the effort to the content that more people will engage with over content fewer people will. And like it or not, Bozja has more participants than ultimates.

    I do still sympathize, though, since it's always disappointing to not get content you'd been looking forward to.
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  10. #38
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    Id just say get more resources as its gettin ridiculous for always havign to choose and let one side down - for all i care they can delete ultimate i wont ever do it but i just think they should manage it so theres something beyond savage...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    Id just say get more resources as its gettin ridiculous for always havign to choose and let one side down - for all i care they can delete ultimate i wont ever do it but i just think they should manage it so theres something beyond savage...
    You ever tried talking a corporation into giving more to the workers? It's really not that easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    It is a delay. He clearly explained that. It is delayed till 6.1. I would much rather sacrifice this ultimate than the quality of the expansion that will end a story I have been a part of for the last 10 years. I know I am not alone in this sentiment.
    If there is no 3 ultimates for 6.X its called a "cutting"
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