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  1. #11
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    Payadopa's Avatar
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    Payadopa Astraya
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    Conjurer Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Styrmwyda View Post
    You know how to play ALC? You know how to play all other crafting jobs.
    Yes, that's exactly my point. lol
    I know how to play <healer> and when I level another <healer> I just need to memorise different skill pictures. The abilities are mostly the same. Only the particles change. Also, I was being sarcastic with the shared exp. I like leveling up. Why do you want to take that away from me? D:
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  2. #12
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    Yes, that's exactly my point. lol
    I know how to play <healer> and when I level another <healer> I just need to memorise different skill pictures. The abilities are mostly the same. Only the particles change. Also, I was being sarcastic with the shared exp. I like leveling up. Why do you want to take that away from me? D:
    Is this still sarcasm?
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  3. #13
    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Some ppl like me really like leveling. To me its actually way more fun then the endgame grind lol
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  4. #14
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Why not just give everyone max level DoH/DoL without any effort at all?

    Just for the heck of it, I decided to level an alt 0-80 on BSM today (the first DoH class I'm leveling on the character). Here it is 7 hours after I started and I'm about to craft the last 2 collectables I need to hit 80. I could have done it much faster if I was using pre-made items instead of crafting every quest and leve item with the character (I had to stop to update gear several times).

    To me, that is far too fast to be leveling a single class let alone 8 classes. There needs to be some time investment involved if you want to have multiple classes/jobs.
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  5. #15
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    Styrmwyda Khawyn
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    Cactuar
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    Machinist Lv 90
    I mean, basically, I don't want to have to juggle though crafting jobs so they all level at the same pace. I want have it so I only have to buy one gear set per 5 or 10 levels instead of multiple.
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  6. #16
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Styrmwyda View Post
    I mean, basically, I don't want to have to juggle though crafting jobs so they all level at the same pace. I want have it so I only have to buy one gear set per 5 or 10 levels instead of multiple.
    You don't need to buy it more often than that as long as you stick to the general crafting gear instead of getting the class specific gear. It's far to easy to level up quickly to need it more often.

    I got gear at 5, 21, 41, 51, 56 (HW has a rather big jump in stats), 63, 71 and finally 80. I was buying the NQ gear off vendors unless it was cheaper on the MB until the level 71 set (my alt can't get to Crystarium to buy from the vendor there). I did keep sockets melded with level appropriate materia, and added one extra meld on the level 51+ gear using some super cheap Command III I found on the MB (60-70% success rate so I rarely lost any). The level 5 gear was a convenience I easily could have bypassed.

    The important thing is to keep both primary and secondary tools up to date since they're going to give you the bulk of your craftsmanship and control. As they aren't shared, you can get rid of them as soon as you get an upgrade.
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  7. #17
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    Payadopa Astraya
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    Is this still sarcasm?
    The last three sentences weren't, little one. :3
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  8. #18
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    Dorion Borstein
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    Halicarnassus
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Styrmwyda View Post
    And what's wrong with being fast? And my main point was because all crafting jobs have the same skills (unlike combat jobs), so if all shared the same level people could seamlessly switch between each one. Like, seriously, how does getting to max level faster a problem?
    I don't think players should be able to just spend a couple hours and have access to every crafting item in the game. I like the way crafting is now and frankly, I like that I have a different class for each type of craft. I'm certainly not wanting to lose all 8 of my Skysung tools for a single Universal one. Not after all the months I spent leveling up each one before the restoration of Ishguard made it doable in a few days.

    If you don't want to spend the gil or the time leveling up the crafting jobs then don't do it. But dumbing it all down for the entire playerbase is not the answer.
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  9. #19
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    Lumivyory's Avatar
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    Character
    Mia Cott
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 80
    SE is already making combat jobs and some fights easier, we don't need even more things to be easier.
    Also I feel like everyone being at lvl 80 on all crafters would have a bad impact on the market.
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  10. #20
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    Cin Aamon
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    Diabolos
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    Reaper Lv 100
    How about no. No thank you.
    If it's that much of an issue, just buy your way to level 80. Can't you do that?
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