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    Liam_Harper's Avatar
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    Liam Harper
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    Something I don't think the healbots realize is that if Enix ever actually achieved the impossible goal of pure healing, where a healer couldn't dps because they needed to be healing for the entire fight regardless of gear or skill, they'd crumple and fall flat.

    The typical healbot has maybe 60% uptime pressing their buttons and usually neglects key parts of their toolkit in favor of spamming Medica II, Regen, AspHelios or Succor endlessly. If fights started demanding 90%+ uptime and full efficient use of the healing toolkit, they simply wouldn't be able to do it. They tend to panic heal in high damage situations, rather than calmly combine oGCD's and burst heals and would empty on resources in the first minute or two. A playstyle where all healers always needed to be healing would be significantly more difficult than healing and doing decent dps under the current game design.

    It's nice to say "I play healer to heal" as an excuse to avoid having to learn the full toolkit, but in reality optimal healing isn't the goal at all then.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Something I don't think the healbots realize is that if Enix ever actually achieved the impossible goal of pure healing, where a healer couldn't dps because they needed to be healing for the entire fight regardless of gear or skill, they'd crumple and fall flat.

    The typical healbot has maybe 60% uptime pressing their buttons and usually neglects key parts of their toolkit in favor of spamming Medica II, Regen, AspHelios or Succor endlessly. If fights started demanding 90%+ uptime and full efficient use of the healing toolkit, they simply wouldn't be able to do it. They tend to panic heal in high damage situations, rather than calmly combine oGCD's and burst heals and would empty on resources in the first minute or two. A playstyle where all healers always needed to be healing would be significantly more difficult than healing and doing decent dps under the current game design.

    It's nice to say "I play healer to heal" as an excuse to avoid having to learn the full toolkit, but in reality optimal healing isn't the goal at all then.
    If SE actually made healers healbots, they'd never be able to complete the MSQ. You can't heal story bosses to death.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    If SE actually made healers healbots, they'd never be able to complete the MSQ. You can't heal story bosses to death.
    They actually could, if they gave you NPCs you had to keep alive. Which, ironically, would play into the healer fantasy way more than our quests do now. With that said, I don't think they should go the healbot way as you've effectively traded Glare spam for Cure II spam. I do, however, think there needs to be a lot more emphasis on healing. Like I said elsewhere, two healers are literally only brought because of one or two mechanics forcing them to be there. Nearly every Savage fight could be solo healed. That alone speaks volumes to how poorly thought out healing is in this game.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


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    Khit Amariyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    If SE actually made healers healbots, they'd never be able to complete the MSQ. You can't heal story bosses to death.
    "I am going to hug you!"

    "Foolish Child of Light, you think me weak enough that my resolve will weaken in the face of 'the strength of kindness'? I wield powers beyond your comprehension, on a scale not even your precious Mothercrystal can h— ow! OW! Hey! Those are my ribs! What in the seven hells are you doing? You said you were going to hug me!"

    "Yep! I'm going to hug you... tO DeAtH."

    "...help..."
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