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  1. #181
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    Ursa_Vonfiebryd's Avatar
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    Ursa Nightrain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    I can say without a doubt that you don't automatically get added as a mentor. I've never been in NN, and I've been a mentor since shortly after they were added.
    When I did the stuff to become mentor, I was put into NN or rather, it appeared on it's tab on my chat window. This was a few expansion ago actually so I don't know how it is now.
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  2. #182
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ursa_Vonfiebryd View Post
    When I did the stuff to become mentor, I was put into NN or rather, it appeared on it's tab on my chat window. This was a few expansion ago actually so I don't know how it is now.
    When I became a mentor, a small sprout icon button appeared beside the chat windows settings one that says Join Novice Network when I hover over it. I've never been in the network, and like I said, I've been a mentor since not long after the whole "program" started.
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  3. #183
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    I think the biggest issue is the whole mentor system is just godsawful, and terribly made and this is a big crack of many. What they should do is completely rework the system to imho be a one on one system where you as a mentor, can go into a social party finder system that matches you with a single sprout looking for a mentor. So it is all voluntary.

    Once they or you leave a party it forms for you two, you can reque if you wish to help someone else or not, basically think customer support type deal. You are offering help specially looking to help at that moment in time, and someone else is specially looking FOR said help. While it may seem limiting it would honestly work 100% better then it does right now where even when people do help, its still by an large a giant public chat room more then anything.

    Or hell keep NN, but also add what im talking about for the people who are looking to help right there and then. I personally was so excited that I would in my mind get to help people who wanted it but NN was NOT how I imagined it'd be... It'd also make it easier to just ignore this guy if thats how the mentor system worked because you can just leave the party, block them and move on and their posts would only be seen by one person who can easily ignore them repeatedly.

    Either way they need to figure how something with the whole mentor system because this dude shows its not really that well designed at all, and was poorly thought out. Road to hell is paved with good intentions after all.

    Edit: Not that I have something against using NN to chat, I just personally kinda dreamed I'd get to mentor someone a bit more one on one or something and make a friend here or there.
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  4. #184
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    If the community was allowed to police itself this wouldn't be a problem. Getting kicked from NN should be account wide, including sprout and mentor alts, and carry the risk of permanent exclusion. Getting kicked by 50 separate accounts should lead to a permanent account wide NN ban, because clearly the community doesn't want your contribution. Apply the same to RMT spammers and permanently silence them after enough reports.
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  5. #185
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    If the community was allowed to police itself this wouldn't be a problem. Getting kicked from NN should be account wide, including sprout and mentor alts, and carry the risk of permanent exclusion.
    Right.. You have got to be kidding me... Yeah, let's just make it even more of a clique.
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  6. #186
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Right.. You have got to be kidding me... Yeah, let's just make it even more of a clique.
    How do you conduct yourself in game if you are worried about being kicked by 50 different individuals?
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  7. #187
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    How do you conduct yourself in game if you are worried about being kicked by 50 different individuals?
    I was referring to specifically the line I quoted. Getting kicked by 50 people is separate from what I quoted. The line I quoted refers to any kick being account wide, "including sprout and mentor alts".

    But sure, I'll reply to that one too, I couldn't care less what the community does or doesn't "want". Unless they are breaking the ToS (As is the case outlined in this thread), a clique shouldn't decide anything. Rather, if they are breaking the ToS a GM should rightfully step in, NOT the community.
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  8. #188
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    Kanetor Oberyth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeia View Post
    Not a great look for new players in the channel that's supposed to welcome them, for sure.
    100%. I'm posting here to keep this relevant. SE Must deal with this more than RMT as it's ruining the experience for new players. I'm an old man who has been playing the game since 2014 and the harassment spam was never as bad.
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  9. #189
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    It will never stop until this person gets bored, that's what a lot of you people seem to not understand.

    Also, I forgot to add, the only actual restriction for trial accounts that has actually been suggested is to not be able to join the Novice Network. Really shows where some people's priorities are.
    yes it will. If they implement tools to stop people from spamming 20 messages in a row it will. Most online games have that implemented in their codes where spamming is not possible. You can put GMs to immediately suspend players etc. So in fact it can be stopped and SE is currently addressing the situation. We will likely see a change in a patch soon hopefully.
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  10. #190
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    SerenityChiba's Avatar
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    Usagi Chiba
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    It will never stop until this person gets bored, that's what a lot of you people seem to not understand.

    Also, I forgot to add, the only actual restriction for trial accounts that has actually been suggested is to not be able to join the Novice Network. Really shows where some people's priorities are.
    Yeah okay. What a joke. We've ignored him many times when he has come into NN to start his crap, and he still continues to do it. Ignoring him isn't solving the problem. That's just like sweeping it under the rug, and just as bad. Action needs to be taken.
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    "Look to those, who've walked before, to lead those who walk after."

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