Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[tdb]

The BLM replies that this is the last job they have to get to 80 and then they won't have to look at it again. While I get this, it's still unfair to the other 3 members in the party. The damage was so ridiculously low. The BLM was constantly 4th on the aggro list the entire run. Shall I remind you guys that the healer wasn't even DPSing that much and was mostly standing like a statue? How can you be below even that? I told the BLM this in chat: I understand this completely, but it's just that it can be unfair to the other 3 members since it can make the runs slower ^^; But in any case, good luck.

I really don't think BLM, or any other class, is that difficult to play decently, even without a guide. I mean sure, if one only has average intelligence, maybe a guide is necessary to figure out the last third. But doing only 10% of the DPS one is supposed to is just laziness, not lack of guide.

Surely it can't be that difficult to figure out at least a basic Fire III -> Fire -> ... -> Blizzard III -> Blizzard -> Fire III rotation, with some Thunder III in between, and activating Enochian and pressing Xenoglossy when it lights up. Please tell me people aren't so stupid as to not figure that out. I can accept that the proper use of Fire IV, Blizzard IV and Despair may take some thinking, as well as how to use Ley Lines without getting hit by AoEs. Or the finer points of using Transpose and Umbral Soul during downtime. But I want to believe the basic rotation at least doesn't take some kind of genius to work out. And if I'm not entirely wrong about the potencies it should provide maybe more than half of the full potential

[Eien713]

I really don't think BLM, or any other class, is that difficult to play decently, even without a guide.

I seem to have this idea that BLM is difficult stuck in my head since that's what I remember hearing a lot of the time (especially around HW, if memory serves). But I agree with what you said here so much. I also don't think any class is rocket science, but the average playerbase level has led me to believe otherwise. For example, I once got 2 different DNCs in 2 different runs of the same dungeon (Hero's Gauntlet) back to back, and they both had almost full 500 ilvl gear which was also fully melded (this was before 5.4). I was in dismay at how these 2 different players were both constantly 4th on the aggro list the entire runs. I honestly have no explanation to how it's possible to do less DPS than a healer. Moral of the story, never underestimate how low the average can go XD

[tdb]

I seem to have this idea that BLM is difficult stuck in my head since that's what I remember hearing a lot of the time (especially around HW, if memory serves).

BLM is a hard class to master, due to it not having any instant-cast spells worth mentioning to use while moving, and Ley Lines tying you to a fairly small area for 30 seconds. You need a good sense of mechanics to get the most out of it. Triple-cast, Aetherial Manipulation and Between the Lines help but require skill to use. Really the basic rotation shouldn't be that difficult though.

[ItMe]

I honestly have no explanation to how it's possible to do less DPS than a healer.

Take into consideration that healing builds aggro too. If these healers were (by necessity or choice) basically just healing all the time, it's not that weird a ranged DPS job could have less aggro than them.

[Eien713]

Take into consideration that healing builds aggro too. If these healers were (by necessity or choice) basically just healing all the time, it's not that weird a ranged DPS job could have less aggro than them.

But that's the thing. I also play a ranged DPS (BRD), but I never ever do less DPS than a healer, and I'm always above them on the aggro list (even back when BRD was the underdog). I should also mention that my gear isn't that great and that I have no melds whatsoever. There's no excuse for someone with better gear than me and with melds to be lower than a healer on the aggro list.

[Eien713]

BLM is a hard class to master, due to it not having any instant-cast spells worth mentioning to use while moving, and Ley Lines tying you to a fairly small area for 30 seconds. You need a good sense of mechanics to get the most out of it. Triple-cast, Aetherial Manipulation and Between the Lines help but require skill to use. Really the basic rotation shouldn't be that difficult though.

Oh, I see :O

[TheMightyMollusk]

BLM's rotation isn't difficult. The challenge is learning the fights, because BLM is basically a turret and doesn't like to move.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Still, a BLM doing 10% of DPS in dungeons? That's just really painful to read. I can imagine myself cringing if I were in your position. And that's just the icing on top...

Those attitudes on the other hand... yikes.

[LogicHatesMe]

Also, these bad/lazy BLM's will probably never get a Foul or Xeno proc, because that requires NOT letting your Umbral/Astral timer run out, and Enochian active, and they seem to think Enochian is a buff you use once on bosses. So they're basically gonna be stuck with Fire, Fire III and Blizzard III (They likely avoid Flare and Despair due to the 10k mana drain, because well, if they're not bright enough to figure out Enochian, this might scare them away)

BLM's rotation isn't difficult. The challenge is learning the fights, because BLM is basically a turret and doesn't like to move.

This, 100%

Someone once told me that executing a single perfect BLM rotation is supposed to be difficult, because the DPS is so high that's how it's balanced out. If you're lucky enough to not have to move for an entire rotation, or even two, then you're in heaven lol. If BLM had easy to access instants that fit perfectly in the GCD.. it would be absurdly overpowered. The only way we have to move while casting is Swiftcast, Triplecast, and Firestarter/Thundercloud Procs, and you REALLY need to know the fight mechanics well to be able to time those perfectly during AoE cycles.

[Lynesse]

I just partied with the nicest and probably best SCH I've ever seen. I love it when I have chemistry with random people in DF, and we tear up the content like it's nobody's business.

I tanked that run, and I want to tank more because of him.