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  1. #121
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    Corvus_V's Avatar
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    Corvus Valerius
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    Golem
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    Jesus christ this is awful. Genuinely sorry to anyone who's experiencing this, it seems like every available option is skirt-able.
    I seriously disagree, but they haven't even tried, so?
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  2. #122
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    SerenityChiba's Avatar
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    Usagi Chiba
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    And locking them out of NN accomplishes what? They could still do the same thing outside of the Novice Network, doing that would only be bandaid at best.
    Yeah my concern with that, is that he will then spam that in main City States.
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    "Look to those, who've walked before, to lead those who walk after."

  3. #123
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    MilkieTea's Avatar
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    C'erise Vanesse
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    Maduin
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus_V View Post
    I seriously disagree, but they haven't even tried, so?
    Well, an IP ban can be skirted around, and apparently so to can banning the payment methods used. Banning his main account means that if he can skirt around an IP ban and a payment method ban, he can just quick level a new account and continue to do what he's already been doing. While the options might be there, they all seem like bandaids to a much bigger problem at hand. The GMs really, really need to figure something out.

    Like I said, this is such an awful situation.
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
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    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

  4. #124
    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Cerberus
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Casanova_Valentine View Post
    Simply code specific words to create flags. Populate enough flags over a certain period of time and it warrants X punishment up and to including perma bans. Rendering it impossible to spam the way he is. Will it stop the words from being used as a single word? Yes, but it will prevent spamming of it.
    Such an approach risks creating problems if it flags certain words that aren't offensive but contain the offending word as part of them. I've seen more than a few flawed filters that flag posts/accounts for writing grapes because of a certain word within. In addition, the game boasts players from all over the world and so a word can be offensive in one language but perfectly innocent in another.

    We already lost the ability to speak in Feast due to 'toxicity' and I'd rather not see innocent players inconvenienced because a tiny minority figure out a way to be a nuisance by exploiting some of the game's limitations in their favour.

    Furthermore, even when a filter is in place anyone committed to trying to indulge in shock value will just find new, offensive terms that aren't blocked and/or just spell them slightly differently.
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  5. #125
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    Shibi's Avatar
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    Lala Felon
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    Zurvan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Such an approach risks creating problems if it flags certain words that aren't offensive but contain the offending word as part of them. I've seen more than a few flawed filters that flag posts/accounts for writing grapes because of a certain word within.
    Yep, the well known Scunthorpe Problem. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scunthorpe_problem


    The only solutions become rate limits, or a GM noticing and sitting in NN on this datacentre for a while to put an end to the player, completely.
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    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

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  7. #126
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    PanderpZack's Avatar
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    Panderp Zack
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    Adamantoise
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Today 8:46 PM @ Adamantoise

    cw: racism homophobia

    https://imgur.com/a/qDNqz9l
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    Last edited by PanderpZack; 12-23-2020 at 12:23 PM.

  8. #127
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    Crushnight's Avatar
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    Jets Down
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SerenityChiba View Post
    Yeah I'm not too sure what food item they are talking about, but nonetheless, it made me giggle too xD
    In the UK there is a food item called Faggots, it is a meat dumpling in gravy, the name for it is older than the slur is, so in the UK context is needed when using the word, so if you talk about buying faggots for dinner your ok, using it the way the individual this thread is about, would get you same looks over here as you would there.
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  9. #128
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    SigynAesir's Avatar
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    Sigyn Aesir
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 80
    I was leveling my alt on Midgardsormr for the first time in awhile and got to witness first hand a couple rounds of this nonsense. Its amazing to me that FF staff or SE hasn't stepped in more? While I understand that there's alts involved and throwaways on free trial...I feel like SOMETHING can be done? Like logs to see if its the same person[s] inviting the person[s] into NN. Anyway, it was bad enough I gave up and ran back to my home server. Primal gets a lot of flak for the raid scene...but at least we don't have this? :/
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    -Sigyn - Excalibur | Skai - Midgardsormr | Shiina - Balmung

  10. #129
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    Panderp Zack
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    Adamantoise
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Today at 11:03 PM Central on Adamantoise

    cw: Transphobia directed towards one of our mentors

    https://imgur.com/a/kaWi3Ro
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  11. #130
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    The guy has shown up on three different characters on Cactuar within the past hour now.

    He also takes it personally if you manage to kick him before he can leave the server and direct insults at specific people when it happens.

    This has gotten to a point where I think they need to start making NN in general invite only since it apparently shoves all new characters in there by default presently.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 12-23-2020 at 02:36 PM.

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