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  1. #651
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    Asaeampan's Avatar
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    Asae Ampan
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    Quote Originally Posted by flatbear View Post
    And yes, I've reported the incident, but it won't carry any weight. We couldn't figure out which healer was doing it, or whether it was both alternately.
    Hold up, how could you... NOT tell which healer it was? rescue drags the target to the healer in question, so unless they were actively standing on top of each other every single time it was used, you'd know, very clearly.
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  2. #652
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    Godzillaxpowerrangers's Avatar
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    Ayatane Wolfblade
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    I have had healers save my butt with rescue doing the last boss in royal city when your moment gets messed up.
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    Kaedan's Avatar
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    Kaedan Burkhardt
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    I'm sorry, I can't agree with removing a useful skill just because it can be used to troll.

    That's like saying we should stop using knives for cooking preparation because they can be used to attack people.

    The issue is the person abusing the skill, not the skill itself. If you're annoyed by a troll, report them. Don't campaign to remove an otherwise useful skill.

    And frankly, if the healer used it to pull you to the next pack of mobs, I don't even consider that trolling. They are just using a quick and simple method of telling you to pull more. The only reason you shouldn't wall pull is if your group can't handle it. And if your healer is doing what you just described, they are telling you they can handle it without having to waste time typing it out.
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  4. #654
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    Mavrias's Avatar
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    Jyn Willowsong
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Oh this thread again? Just make a toggle, that way the skill can still see its use in statics, but if you're feeling some type of way about it you can turn it off in pugs. WoW has an option similar to this but it's an item I believe.
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  5. #655
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    Aelin Ashriver
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    Leave rescue alone. I main astro, I have to rescue my MCH regularly along with a couple other friends because they simply dont have the reactions or memory to know every mechanic and I can use it to save their butts. Every rescue is followed by a pleasantly surprised noise and a thank you. And yeah, I have used it to pull tanks towards the next pack of mobs before, not directly into them but it's my way of saying "Hey we can keep going ykno". I don't do it to troll, I will say, for example usually if a tank is single pulling they are newer, "you can pull more " or "pull more please" but not everyone pays attention to the chat box nor do I expect them to. So I pull the tank towards mobs if they don't notice my frantic jumping in their direction. They tank both packs, realise tanking the packs is ezpz and double pull without me pulling them going forward. The one tank I had who DID return back to his one pack. I took the message and didn't pull him again. I rarely do roulettes anymore with random people, mostly because roulettes themselves bore me to death at this point.
    But rescue is not often used purely to troll and it has a LONG cooldown to stop constant trolling. If someone pulls you once and you ask them not to repeat it, case over. If they do it again report them, move on with life.
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  6. #656
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    flatbear's Avatar
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    V'rhana Khett
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asaeampan View Post
    Hold up, how could you... NOT tell which healer it was? rescue drags the target to the healer in question, so unless they were actively standing on top of each other every single time it was used, you'd know, very clearly.
    Based on both healers' behaviour, I suspect they did work in tandem as you suggest. I could not check because I was melee DPS and not interested in being accused of dilly-dallying. The tank who was being pulled away from mobs was seated next to me, but I couldn't look at the screen and he was too focused on getting through the dungeon. We both scrolled endlessly through our combat logs to no avail. Both healers were incredibly rude when I started speaking up about the abuse, so I figured let a GM sort it out.
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  7. #657
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    To date I still have never had a healer ever do this to me.
    It surely must be a minority situation.
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  8. #658
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    Teno Gestalt
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    Moogle
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    Sage Lv 100
    The problem in FF14 is that rescue disrupts a player's gameplay too much. You lose a full gcd and your rotation is suddenly sidetracked. Add to that the server lag.
    It's much less a problem with the wings in wow for example, where you are much more mobile and able to adjust faster.
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  9. #659
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    Kay Radley
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    Quote Originally Posted by TyrTry View Post
    Simply ask them not to do that again.

    It's rude. They simply could have asked "can you pull more?"

    If they continue, either ask again, put in a vote kick, or leave. The healer does not control the speed; the team does.
    If all else fails, Shirk them.
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  10. #660
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    Van Arn
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    Goblin
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    Samurai Lv 90
    The state of the game is pretty great if this is considered an issue. My, how far xiv has come.
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