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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    I do love the idea that they'd reference Chrono Trigger, as I've said when you've brought this up in the past. Only thing is, at least in the picture comparison is, how would the mural artists know to draw him as the secret background sleuth. That and, wouldn't that put a Lavos-like entity on every reflection? Meaning the Ascians would have found its presence prior to each successful Rejoining? I don't hate the idea, I just don't think it fits into the narratively neatly.
    I see it as some half remembered dream much like some of the murals in the Qitana Ravel. A possible clue to the Final Days. That there was something more going on than just the Hydaelyn/Zodiark feud as remembered by one of the Sundered. Which we know is the case, because instead of actually dealing with the issue themselves, they summoned Zodiark to deal with it. The XIVth left to try to find the source of the problem but ran out of time or was killed by the cause of the sound. For all we know the painter of the murals could have been Hythlodaeus's fractured incarnation (that is wild speculation and not at all backed by any information).

    And yes, essentially that would be what I'm saying. Something is buried in Silvertear Falls under the Guardianship of Midgardsormr, and there is a huge reserve of aether there for a reason. As for the Ascians not finding it after all the years that followed, Midgardsormr is still alive and holding true to the covenant he made with Hydaelyn to protect said lake. Meaning they can't deal with him easily and are weary of doing so. So in the Source we have Silvertear and on the First we have The Source where Bismark is currently residing. One is surrounded by crystals and the other has those same crystals growing out of it, and both have a guardian of sorts watching over it. That is not a coincidence. There is something more going on here. I wonder if next patch will have Fandaniel place one of the Towers (Black Omens maybe?) in Mor Dhona, one for every calamity thus far...
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    It should be noted that the areas these towers were appearing are very close to where primals were defeated as pointed out in the 5.4 spoiler thread.

    Floating City of Nym -> O'gomoro Mines -> Titan
    Ala Mhigan Quarter -> Royal Promenade -> Shinryu (Also relatively close to where Lakshmi was defeated. Just a zone over.)
    Sangolii Desert -> Zahar'ak -> Ifrit
    Lost City of Amdapor -> Enkidu (This is where it gets interesting since it was a side story summon. Also while not a summon, Diabolos was trapped here for a long time. If he is to be believed, he was rather powerful prior to his imprisonment.)
    Dravanian Forelands -> Loth ast Gnath -> Ravana
    Yanxia -> Castrum Fluminis -> Tsukuyomi

    As said poster also mentioned, it is possible they are drawing on the aether from these primals in order to help fuel their tempering properties. It can also be assumed that they are also in other areas as we do know of other primals that have been defeated in recent memory that the WoL has never faced. (Sorrow of Werlyt)
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    Quote Originally Posted by KylePearlsand View Post
    Lost City of Amdapor -> Enkidu )
    While this is true, it's more to the east, closer to Amdapor Keep. But really, the biggest primal for this zone was sealed in Urth's Fount. Odin. The Black Rider, who rides all over the shroud. Not too mention, Ramuh is just north of this tower as well.
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    This also makes me realize that each of the towers is near primals that have Lunar counterparts from the FFIV Advanced/PSP versions of the game.

    So we'll get:

    Lunar Titan
    Lunar Ifrit
    Lunar Odin
    Tsukuyomi
    Lunar Dragon (Though this may just be Lunar Bahamut from Shinryu's tower location)

    Only one that doesn't have a direct Lunar Eidolon counterpart is Ravana. Maybe that's to leave room for more originality for FFXIV dev team, or maybe they'll surprise us with Lunar Asura given she also has multiple arms and weapons.
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    "I thought that my invincible power would hold the world captive, leaving me in a freedom undisturbed. Thus night and day I worked at the chain with huge fires and cruel hard strokes. When at last the work was done and the links were complete and unbreakable, I found that it held me in its grip." - Rabindranath Tagore

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    Quote Originally Posted by KylePearlsand View Post
    Ala Mhigan Quarter -> Royal Promenade -> Shinryu (Also relatively close to where Lakshmi was defeated. Just a zone over.)
    We also fought Lakshmi in the throne room in 5.1, so that could still count for her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    Only one that doesn't have a direct Lunar Eidolon counterpart is Ravana. Maybe that's to leave room for more originality for FFXIV dev team, or maybe they'll surprise us with Lunar Asura given she also has multiple arms and weapons.
    I'd have a feeling that if Lunar Asura is involved, then there would be a Tower in Bozja, and if that is the case then we wills ee several other towers scattered about first to to spoil that twist.

    That said I do think the Lunar Primals if they do exist might hem towards either iconic summons of the ARR primals,so Lunar Gardua, Lunar Bismarck and Lunar Odin are as likely as Lunar Ifrit, Lunar Shiva and Luna Titan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    I'd have a feeling that if Lunar Asura is involved, then there would be a Tower in Bozja, and if that is the case then we wills ee several other towers scattered about first to to spoil that twist.

    That said I do think the Lunar Primals if they do exist might hem towards either iconic summons of the ARR primals,so Lunar Gardua, Lunar Bismarck and Lunar Odin are as likely as Lunar Ifrit, Lunar Shiva and Luna Titan.
    While this may be the outcome, I'd much prefer something completely new. We've already had modified bosses in Eden and it was a nice twist. Another reiteration could seem like a same old with a new paint job. Or worse, give the impression of struggling for new ideas.
    Now with the game being so well established, it makes it more difficult to work-in a brand new concept. But isn't that all the more reason to have something brand new?
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    As much as I love Chrono Trigger, and would really like to see some kind of crossover content with Chrono Trigger in Final Fantasy XIV. I think that if any alien were causing the sound beneath the earth in Amaurot, they would likely prioritize referencing Jenova over Lavos.

    I agree with others, that they don't look Garlean to me. I wonder where the Eorzean Alliance got the notion they were Garlean? Though that idea is further supported by the fact they at least appear to be tempering people. While Fandaniel's motivations seem pretty cliché. I'm really curious what these towers actually are and for the next Patch, once again. I wonder when the reveal for the next expansion will be. My friends have been estimating around February.

    The fact that towers or beacon's around the world will naturally be pointing at space. And with one of our only other things to go off of being the name "Lunar Bahamut", points us in the direction of the moon being somehow connected to these towers. But we known next to nothing about the moon, except that we've seen Elidibus on the moon several times before.

    I wish I had something more to go off of. I'm completely lost as to what they could be exactly.
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    I wonder if continued exposure to the Black Tower's signal will result in mutation of people?

    In the same patch, they've reminded us that exposure to Primal's aether can lead to Tempering and continued exposure will transform the person. The example used was Zurvan turning his tempered into Zurvan-egi, but we also saw this early on back in ARR where Leviathan mutated the pirates and gave them aquatic life-like features.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    I'd have a feeling that if Lunar Asura is involved, then there would be a Tower in Bozja, and if that is the case then we wills ee several other towers scattered about first to to spoil that twist.

    That said I do think the Lunar Primals if they do exist might hem towards either iconic summons of the ARR primals,so Lunar Gardua, Lunar Bismarck and Lunar Odin are as likely as Lunar Ifrit, Lunar Shiva and Luna Titan.
    My list was just going off of what Eidolons had Lunar variants in FFIV Advanced and PSP. Personally, I'd rather they referenced other bosses from FFIV entirely, if not in name, then in appearance. Mainly because in the original game, the only dark versions of things we fought in the Lunar Subterrane were Dark Bahamut(localized as Wyvern for some reason) and Dark Leviathan(Ogopogo).

    Struggling to remember if Pashtarot has been killed or not as well, since going by FF12 standards, that'd be the Ascian to reference Zemus/Zeromus with.
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