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    Nekaru_Infitima's Avatar
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    Nekaru Infitima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zomkei View Post
    are you talking about dungeons and story trials? because as far as i have seen, no one expects you to watch a guide. unless you come in demanding them to explain mechanics to you, most of them couldn't care less if you mess up. the only time i've seen people demand you watch a guide is for EX trials , savages, and ultimates. if you want to do those blind, you could always just put a PF up for that specifically though.

    and to add a note, if you're just doing story mode / dungeons, and someone DOES complain you didn't watch a guide, just ignore them lol
    Had someone tell our party 'videos exist' on normal non-savage Deltascape 2 raid after going back and doing it. (I neglected it my playthrough and now at endgame bored going back and doing things I didn't do.)
    But that's not the first time. I've seen on the forum people try to hammer guides down peoples throats and not waste their time because they want to roulette and get things done as fast as possible. Even if it's new to the player.

    Honestly I wish there was a Dutyfinder option like Party Finder to set it to just people who haven't done that fight yet. The first time around. Then open it to roulettes after.
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    Name Meaning:
    Nekaru = Neko + Hikaru
    Infitima = Infinity + Ultima

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    Frizze's Avatar
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    Lamia
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nekaru_Infitima View Post
    Had someone tell our party 'videos exist' on normal non-savage Deltascape 2 raid after going back and doing it. (I neglected it my playthrough and now at endgame bored going back and doing things I didn't do.)
    But that's not the first time. I've seen on the forum people try to hammer guides down peoples throats and not waste their time because they want to roulette and get things done as fast as possible. Even if it's new to the player.

    Honestly I wish there was a Dutyfinder option like Party Finder to set it to just people who haven't done that fight yet. The first time around. Then open it to roulettes after.
    You might think that duty finder option would be a good thing, but it wouldnt work. You que for Delta 2. Now you get to wait for 7 other people who also need to do the same duty, AND who match up to the 2/2/4 group ratio. A que like that for new content that has hundreds of people queing an hour would be workable. But even like a month into the patch when the number of first timers queing is down to a dozen an hour it stops working. And for content several patches old, where you might be the only first timer queing this hour? And on top of that, youre making the assumption that everyone wants to play the same way. They dont. A large percentage(i would guess most actually) would be 100% happy playing with people who know the fight. Some dont want to be spoiled, some dont care, some actively want to be told what to do to make sure they win. As with any time you want something specific from a group of strangers, party finder is the way to go. "Delta 2 normal, going in blind no spoilers" - and get some like minded people or quiet helpful vets to join. Much easier then programing in a new filter that would make duty finder less useful.

    As for what happened, that honestly doesnt make sense to me. Unless the group was messing up easy mechanics and repeatedly wiping on a very winnable fight, or someone was asking the group to explain everything and rather then type out a guide the response was that videos exist... delta 2 isnt a fight that needs a guide. Its forgettable enough that i had to look up which fight it was(Catastrophe). That was a 1 pull fight when it was brand new and we didnt outgear it by 2 patches. Now it might be clearable even with 2 healers who eat every mechanic. So as Zomkei said, just ignore someone like that.
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    MsMisato's Avatar
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    Khloe Stardew
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekaru_Infitima View Post
    Had someone tell our party 'videos exist' on normal non-savage Deltascape 2 raid after going back and doing it. (I neglected it my playthrough and now at endgame bored going back and doing things I didn't do.)
    But that's not the first time. I've seen on the forum people try to hammer guides down peoples throats and not waste their time because they want to roulette and get things done as fast as possible. Even if it's new to the player.

    Honestly I wish there was a Dutyfinder option like Party Finder to set it to just people who haven't done that fight yet. The first time around. Then open it to roulettes after.
    Its going to happen and unfortunately the game has been out for about 7 years now. The only time its good to go blind is during the release of new content but after a few days guides are out.

    Honestly its just a good idea to review a guide be it a video or written guide on what to expect. When it comes to roulette, thing is you are playing with other people, you have to be respectful of their time when it comes to roulette. Some folks simply only have a couple of hours to play while others may have tons of time to play. Its great when you get a group of people that are new or ok with taking time to let you go in blind. But doing a little prep work on what to expect makes things go alot smoother and usually results in a happier party all around. personally some fights you should have an basic understanding of is maybe Dun Scaith, the Ivalice raids, and maybe the Nier Raids. If you are going savage, simply do your homework before hand, you will save yourself some headaches. Also you don't necessarily need to watch spoiler laden videos as there are those that upload a 5 to 10 minute video that just touches the mechanics.

    However, you are free to setup a Party finder for older content to run blind in any content though with like minded folk to run in blind and keep it synced.
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