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    I treat basically anything as canon except for the crossover promotional events.

    That said, very few people actually roleplay being the Warrior of Light/Darkness in the RP community because that whole idea falls apart very quickly, and also beholdens you to a linear story instead of RPing whatever you want for your character's story. If everyone 'is the Warrior of Light' or even just five people in the same room, it gets ridiculous because the story is written very clearly with a singular protagonist in mind, and having everyone say they experienced the same events is very limiting.

    As for people going to the First, it's not exactly an easy task to do but I believe Yoshi P in an interview basically gave his blessing for people to do that if they want to in their RP as non WOLS but I'd have to go looking for the exact quote. But in the context of the msq it doesnt' really make much sense because it's a pretty big point that only the WOL is able to freely make that journey. On the other hand, I don't blame anyone for not wanting to cut an entire expansion worth of zones and story out of their RP so I have no issue with people RPing ways to do it.
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    Ruinfeild's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    I treat basically anything as canon except for the crossover promotional events.

    That said, very few people actually roleplay being the Warrior of Light/Darkness in the RP community because that whole idea falls apart very quickly, and also beholdens you to a linear story instead of RPing whatever you want for your character's story. If everyone 'is the Warrior of Light' or even just five people in the same room, it gets ridiculous because the story is written very clearly with a singular protagonist in mind, and having everyone say they experienced the same events is very limiting.

    As for people going to the First, it's not exactly an easy task to do but I believe Yoshi P in an interview basically gave his blessing for people to do that if they want to in their RP as non WOLS but I'd have to go looking for the exact quote. But in the context of the msq it doesnt' really make much sense because it's a pretty big point that only the WOL is able to freely make that journey. On the other hand, I don't blame anyone for not wanting to cut an entire expansion worth of zones and story out of their RP so I have no issue with people RPing ways to do it.
    I did a quick search and came up with this.

    https://brytedarklyt.tumblr.com/post...related_post=1

    So if this is true (even with the source link), it does seem like Yoshi-P is indeed giving his blessings to RPers who are just simple adventurer's to be able to travel to the first and back to the source.

    The question now becomes though that despite yes, even though Yoshi-P supports the idea of normal adventurer's going to the first and back because it is all about making the players own fun, will the RP community be able to accept it and move on or still throw in the excuse of 'but the story says x and y'

    Even though I know in RP it is all about having fun and creating a character you enjoy within reason of course (not like x character is the son of these two named NPC's but was actually adopted and y is their father), but I seen new RPers and those wanting to get into it put off because of how fractured the community can be.

    Edit: First link I looked at also had to do with the topic and seemed the discussion was more pointed at the question being asked for lore purposes and it wasn't really an answer other than 'RP how you want and not worry about what others think'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruinfeild View Post

    The question now becomes though that despite yes, even though Yoshi-P supports the idea of normal adventurer's going to the first and back because it is all about making the players own fun, will the RP community be able to accept it and move on or still throw in the excuse of 'but the story says x and y'

    Even though I know in RP it is all about having fun and creating a character you enjoy within reason of course (not like x character is the son of these two named NPC's but was actually adopted and y is their father), but I seen new RPers and those wanting to get into it put off because of how fractured the community can be.
    I mean what do you expect him to say when being asked an innocent question like that? "NO, WOL ONLY YOU DARN RPERS"? 90% chance he'd say something similar if someone asked if they could RP WOW's horde invading Eorzea through a portal or just joke and say "whatever you guys find fun!". He's not gonna try and fun police people.

    For many people, wanting to RP is to immerse yourself in the world and all its limitations, physics, etc. Every last bit of the lore to this day has stated that travelling to the First is basically impossible outside of supernatural or super-engineering feats, which nobody but the most mary-sue like characters are going to have the means to do so. So by wanting to explore themes and settings that are impossible to reach by all except for a very small amount of people, you're naturally going to shun a vast majority of people who want to stay bound by the lore of the universe the devs have created or turn them off from Rping with you due to your character having mary-sue like properties. It's not an excuse; its simple lore-adhering.

    But like any RP, it's about the groups you find. You could RP anything you want in FF14 and bend the lore as much as you like, just find a group of like-minded individuals who are interested, and leave anyone who's not interested alone instead of trying to convince them otherwise.
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    Roda Tirhaalo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruinfeild View Post
    I did a quick search and came up with this.

    https://brytedarklyt.tumblr.com/post...related_post=1

    So if this is true (even with the source link), it does seem like Yoshi-P is indeed giving his blessings to RPers who are just simple adventurer's to be able to travel to the first and back to the source.

    The question now becomes though that despite yes, even though Yoshi-P supports the idea of normal adventurer's going to the first and back because it is all about making the players own fun, will the RP community be able to accept it and move on or still throw in the excuse of 'but the story says x and y'

    Even though I know in RP it is all about having fun and creating a character you enjoy within reason of course (not like x character is the son of these two named NPC's but was actually adopted and y is their father), but I seen new RPers and those wanting to get into it put off because of how fractured the community can be.

    Edit: First link I looked at also had to do with the topic and seemed the discussion was more pointed at the question being asked for lore purposes and it wasn't really an answer other than 'RP how you want and not worry about what others think'
    So anything the game presents as possible is up for grabs in rp, pretty much. (hell, even stuff that isn't is up for grabs with a bit of social finesse)

    But, there's a bit of a catch. What is acceptable to RP is up to the players ('cause it's their imaginations and the devs don't have an official rp server that they moderate for rp), and not the devs.

    Balmung -currently- has a kind of reverse arms race when it comes to how fantastical people make their characters in public rp. The Echo/blessing is extremely rare instead of adventurers being prone to having it awaken. There is ONE warrior of light instead of every 1.0 player / decent heroic adventurer being called a warrior of light. And even if an event IS canon, if a common adventurer from whatever region you're rping in wouldn't know about an event, it isn't relavent to apply to RP. Which causes plotline scales to be quite small when compaired to the fantastical powerscales of the msq. No one wants to be the mary sue of the server with the way-too-fantastical character that overshadows someone's mercenary/merchant/hunter/dancer/adventurer/refugee personal plot. A kind of canadian standoff of "no no no, you take the spotlight now, I'll stand back and wait for my turn" while everyone rps what is essentially a side npc that just kinda exists around the msq, just not in its center.

    Now, don't be discouraged if you want to delve farther into where the MSQ explores, as that's my general observation of how people set up their characters for random/pickup rp and there are of course different philosophies on how powerscales should be in rp wthin different rp cliques, and an established group would eventually venture into newer and more recent territory. As long as you clearly communicate what kind of stories you're looking for, then you shouldn't have too much of a problem finding those stories. And who knows, with how 5.3 is exploring its themes, maybe we'll see a shift of what is considered "mundane" in a fantasy setting.
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