Augmented Scaevan gear: the true villain of Shadowbringers

[Kuroka]

(...) is low enough that any stat deficiencies can be accomodated with player skill. I've done these dungeons in min ilvl parties and you can still double pull and finish the dungeon in good time, this is not a issue with gear its an issue with people being bad. (...)

Yes thats the point and unless they do more dungeons to get a bit more practice and/or higher gear to add more buffer it can turn a nice dungeon into a painfull drag. Yes i can do it on min too, but why? if you can soften it then you should, not everyone is that good and unless you can go full premade you'll never know. I cant count the times i went in an roulett literally 35 min before reset and yet only finished 5-10 min after it... If ppl are dumb AND cant take a single hit without dropping dead, its just painfull. And tbh, i dont mind helping or carry em, but dam they could run for example 1-2 more Qitana for SOME more gear. It boils down to ppl just level WAY too fast...

[Fynlar]

I'm sure SE intended for players to play "how low can you go?", when they introduced/tightened min ilvl for duties not long ago.

It's only incorrect, if you're running duties preformed with very pacient and capable friends. I'm sure everyone and their grandma have a pocket Savage tier healer. :^)

Nice of you to think you won that thread, when you merely covered your ears and ran tail between legs.

Found the sock owner.

[Sylve]

Let me put it this way.

Augmented Scavean Gear is like...i think something around the ball park of 10 less ilvls than what is possible to obtain at lvl 79. 10 ilvls is barely anything.

Secondly, the new expert dungeons dont require you to be at ilvl cap for that patch, further proven by the fact that they drop gear that is utterly irrelevant to most people.

Augmented Scavean is more than suitable to be used all the way until lvl 79, though i will admit it does start to get much weaker in mt gulg but Augmented gear is actually BETTER than dungeon/HQ crafted gear before mt gulg so really...that gear is fine. I've done the biggest possible pulls in that gear, with healers and tanks in that gear, with dps in that gear. The first time i went through the expansion story last july i used augmented scavean/omega gear all the way up until i hit 80, because it was simply just adequette for everything and in many cases actually better.


If someone uses something LOWER than augmented scavean though? Then yea we have a problem, but honestly, it could be worse.

Forgiven gear is 420. Scaevan is 400.
Even the 79 Crafted HQ armor is 415.

For one or two slots? Eh. No big deal. But missing 15 - 20 item levels worth of Main and Substat on every slot combined with diminishing effectiveness of substats on their relevant percentages, meaning your Crit, DH, DET etc all get weaker with every level.

if its a DPS, They will piss the healer off by getting near one shot due to lack of expected HP values. If its a Tank, they're getting smashed hard with a smaller HP buffer than they should. If its a Healer, it doesn't matter too much, since it just means they'll be spamming more heals out or getting scraped off the floor by the RDM after every mechanic.

All while doing much less DPS than they should be at that level lol.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Found the sock owner.

Found the one who needs to call others sock accounts to win arguments.

I don't carry a chip on my shoulder from having been proven wrong on a past thread tho :^)

As far as I know, you're the sock owner so you can come here "trash it" and be an hero.

[Fynlar]

Found the one who needs to call others sock accounts to win arguments.

Implying that this thread is even putting forth a serious "argument" to begin with. You must think very highly of yourself.

[AxelBranford]

Face it as a challenge.
Some people cry out their hearts desiring harder dungeons...
Nothing is more challenging than players not fully armored.
It takes longer, yas ma'am. But hey, get out of routine.

[Ammokkx]

Implying that this thread is even putting forth a serious "argument" to begin with. You must think very highly of yourself.

If you want people to take you seriously, maybe try not to throw out blind accusations. It helps to have proof for your claims, otherwise, you just damage the argument you're associating with yourself.

Some food for thought.

[Fynlar]

This interaction has absolutely nothing to do with anyone else, and therefore I really couldn't care less whether you or anyone else takes me seriously or not. It doesn't involve you.

Some food for thought.

The bottom line is that the clearly-sockpuppeted OP's claim of people in i400 making "zero" contribution to Shadowbringers dungeons is overexaggerated and clearly false, so I am (rightfully) going to cast suspicion on anyone trying to defend it as if it were any sort of gospel.

[Sylve]

Face it as a challenge.
Some people cry out their hearts desiring harder dungeons...
Nothing is more challenging than players not fully armored.
It takes longer, yas ma'am. But hey, get out of routine.

Well, i mean. I once healed a Tank at the start of ShB while levelling my SCH through Holminster who was wearing Ruby Tide accessories and NQ vendor Deepgold armour. Or back further in Sirensong during Stormblood a Tank wearing i200 with just 4k more HP than me, as the Healer.

It was less a 'challenge' and more just me strapping them to my back and dragging them to the end.

Just because it's possible, doesn't mean you should subject random people to it.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

This interaction has absolutely nothing to do with anyone else, and therefore I really couldn't care less whether you or anyone else takes me seriously or not. It doesn't involve you.

Some food for thought.

The bottom line is that the clearly-sockpuppeted OP's claim of people in i400 making "zero" contribution to Shadowbringers dungeons is overexaggerated and clearly false, so I am (rightfully) going to cast suspicion on anyone trying to defend it as if it were any sort of gospel.

"My interactions on a public thread that everyone can read are none of you concern. Also people on the internet never make opposing sock puppets to beat down and prop themselves up, specially the "My opinion is fact" kind of forum poster."