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  1. #81
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    xxmiamorecadenza's Avatar
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    Let ‘em skip, I say.

    And I say this without a hint of sarcasm.

    I legit don’t know how someone skipping to lvl 60 on BLU can adversely effect someone’s gameplay experiences in instances.

    It’s not like how actual job skips thrust inexperienced players into difficult content out the gate.
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    I don't think you know what the verb` exploit` means. You're literally taking advantage of something that's unintended. You can sugarcoat it however you want but at the end of the day it's an unintended `feature` aka a bug.

    All I'm asking for is a potion to skip level 1-60.
    Still not getting it.

    A bug that is used to gain a benefit that is unintended and is raised negatively which will likely be patched out = Exploit.
    A system that is used to gain benefit that is originally unintended but is not seen as an issue by the development team/won't be patched out = Feature.

    The tagging system, is not a bug, it's an intentional design with a beneficial side effect that the Dev team are not patching out, therefore it's become a feature.

    And just because you're okay with trying to get a strategy highlighted and removed so you can drop money on a skip potion doesn't mean everyone else is, or would want to.
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by JanVanding View Post
    Still not getting it.

    A bug that is used to gain a benefit that is unintended and is raised negatively which will likely be patched out = Exploit.
    A system that is used to gain benefit that is originally unintended but is not seen as an issue by the development team/won't be patched out = Feature.

    The tagging system, is not a bug, it's an intentional design with a beneficial side effect that the Dev team are not patching out, therefore it's become a feature.

    And just because you're okay with trying to get a strategy highlighted and removed so you can drop money on a skip potion doesn't mean everyone else is, or would want to.
    That's amazing you're making up your own terms now. Look up the verb exploit for me. Google has it as `make full use of and derive benefit from (a resource).`

    eg. You're taking full use an anti grief system in an unexpected way.

    Edit: I mean you guys can sugar coat it as much as you want, but this thread isn't about exploiting an anti grief mechanic in an unintended way.
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    Last edited by MPK; 08-21-2020 at 05:30 AM.

  4. #84
    Player JanVanding's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    That's amazing you're making up your own terms now.
    Industry terms, they're not made up, I've been playing MMO's for a very long time and this terminology has existed since Ultima Online.
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza View Post
    Let ‘em skip, I say.

    And I say this without a hint of sarcasm.

    I legit don’t know how someone skipping to lvl 60 on BLU can adversely effect someone’s gameplay experiences in instances.

    It’s not like how actual job skips thrust inexperienced players into difficult content out the gate.
    This. If I want to blow 30 bux to skip 1-60 let me. There's literally no adverse effects.
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    Last edited by MPK; 08-21-2020 at 05:01 AM.

  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    That's amazing you're making up your own terms now. Look up the verb exploit for me. Google has it as `make full use of and derive benefit from (a resource).
    By that definition, everything in this game is an exploit. I’m exploiting raids to get the resource “gear.” I’m exploiting the MB when I buy mounts that I’ll never get otherwise. Exp is a resource.

    In gaming terms, it means using a feature in a way the devs don’t want you to.

    The Ungarmax bug was an exploit.

    The BLU job change thing was an exploit.

    SE knows people are doing it this way. If they wanted to fix it, they would. BLU already levels differently than other jobs, so they can make job specific exp changes. They could make it so that if a BLU doesn’t do the most damage to the mob, they get no exp or spells.

    I don’t feel like raiding on my alts. My main has done it already. Let me just buy a box of BiS for my alts with cash.
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    Last edited by Violyre; 08-21-2020 at 06:05 AM.

  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violyre View Post
    By that definition, everything in this game is an exploit. I’m exploiting raids to get the resource “gear.” I’m exploiting the MB when I buy mounts that I’ll never get otherwise. Exp is a resource.

    In gaming terms, it means using a feature in a way the devs don’t want you to.

    The Ungarmax bug was an exploit.

    The BLU job change thing was an exploit.

    SE knows people are doing it this way. If they wanted to fix it, they would. BLU already levels differently than other jobs, so they can make job specific exp changes. They could make it so that if a BLU doesn’t do the most damage to the mob, they get no exp or spells.

    I don’t feel like raiding on my alts. My main has done it already. Let me just buy a box of BiS for my alts with cash.
    They clearly didn't meant for people to power level through that anti grief mechanic. It's considered exploiting a game mechanic in an unintended way.

    I asked for level skip like the ones that exist for 1-70 not complete bis. I didn't even ask for skills.

    I still don't understand what you gain for sugarcoating it. I guess it makes you feel better?
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by BelegErkhten View Post
    "Can we pay 12 dollars so we don't need to do an hours worth of playing the game"

    Is this a joke?
    an out of season april fool's joke one might say
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  9. #89
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    Grrr those darn kids need to do things the right way and grind boring mechanicless field mobs for hours on end because that's the way the game's meant to be played.

    I can't tell whether the MMO playing community's feverish wish for the mindlessness of years past is rose colored glasses or beer goggles. Rose-colored beer goggles?
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  10. #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    Grrr those darn kids need to do things the right way and grind boring mechanicless field mobs for hours on end because that's the way the game's meant to be played.

    I can't tell whether the MMO playing community's feverish wish for the mindlessness of years past is rose colored glasses or beer goggles. Rose-colored beer goggles?
    Exactly it's so boring! Let people who want to skip 1-60 skip it by buying a level skip potion!
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