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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    If it is going to be that much of an issue (something i'm doubtful of) just have it so BLUs cannot earn the fate items needed. Or is BLU actually getting a yokai weapon as well?
    There never were any job requirements to obtain anything. The legendary medals (for weapons) you obtained were determined by which minion was out and which zone you were in. So disabling BLU from obtaining medals or temporarily disabling BLU abilities in FATES would both mean making special exceptions. Disabling medals would have the added problem that if the person playing BLU didn't know and continued one-shotting boss fates just thinking their luck was bad, and so nobody would get medals. Or they might just do it to grief.

    Of course the one-shotting is mostly an issue with Boss FATEs which are the minority of FATEs. I know some bosses are already immune to missile, but don't know about doom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    There never were any job requirements to obtain anything. The legendary medals (for weapons) you obtained were determined by which minion was out and which zone you were in. So disabling BLU from obtaining medals or temporarily disabling BLU abilities in FATES would both mean making special exceptions. Disabling medals would have the added problem that if the person playing BLU didn't know and continued one-shotting boss fates just thinking their luck was bad, and so nobody would get medals. Or they might just do it to grief.

    Of course the one-shotting is mostly an issue with Boss FATEs which are the minority of FATEs. I know some bosses are already immune to missile, but don't know about doom.
    doom/missle/tail screw/launcher share the same immunity
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacent View Post
    doom/missle/tail screw/launcher share the same immunity
    If that is the case, then this probably isn't much of a problem.
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    They removed Doom, Tail Screw, Missle etc from being used on many FATES on the 5.0 expansion. Now you get "Fully Resisted" instead of missed (meaning immunte)
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    They removed Doom, Tail Screw, Missle etc from being used on many FATES on the 5.0 expansion. Now you get "Fully Resisted" instead of missed (meaning immunte)
    I just fought Gorgi on Odin and managed to Doom him easily. Did the same for a boss in Bronze Lake. You can't doom anything above your level. And I've tried it out in 3.X areas and I couldn't doom things as well despite being on level for that as well.

    2.X areas can still have it hit, in 3.X areas they stopped that.








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    Oh hey look, people are spamming it all now
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    Hilarious, they were so worried about Blue mage breaking the game yet they still allow this. Boss fates should all be immuned to Doom, only mobs should not be; furthermore it should have a longer CD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    Hilarious, they were so worried about Blue mage breaking the game yet they still allow this. Boss fates should all be immuned to Doom, only mobs should not be; furthermore it should have a longer CD.
    And it appears I was right. It never mattered if BLU had doom or not. You can't stop a party of lv80 MCH from decimating anything under the level cap.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    You still have lv80's, even when synced down, doing all these at once who also have flying mounts and will mow down the bosses before newbies in their fresh preened chocobo can get there. So no matter what, day 1 is going to be a zerg rush.
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    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    And it appears I was right. It never mattered if BLU had doom or not. You can't stop a party of lv80 MCH from decimating anything under the level cap.
    The speed with which doom completes boss fates has no comparison to a regular job doing the same Fate. It might only apply to Fates from HW on, but I remember Fates adjusted to how many people did that Fate previously, so it would take longer next time after 10+ people finished it the first time. I'll need to check later today if the 2.0 Fates adjust to how many people are doing them or not. If they don't that's very inconsistent of the devs and they should correct it, the tools to change it exist.
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    Hey with doom you at least have 10 seconds to build up credit where as tail skrew just zerges the fate in 1 go.
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