Seat of Sacrifice is far too overtuned for LFR

[Sylvaneste]

I would like to thank SE for once again, making me question why am I paying for this.

This is the MSQ, it is not ment to be so difficult. That is what the EX,Savage,etc are for.

This QTE is BS. Okay sure you can face roll your keyboard apparently, I will let my ADA group members know. But seriously, just one person fails and there goes the group? One person DC, there goes the group, one persons kid gets yelled at to take out the trash, wipe.

This is the MSQ, it should be fun and enjoyable and accessible to EVERYONE. We pay for the pleasure of playing, not wasting hours wiping due to grievers, and DC and so forth and so on.

There was an article about how ff14 was actually rated pretty high for people with disabilities. I would beg to differ. So much so, I would even advocate for a "light" version of the fights for those with kids and other "reasons". Remove the QTE!!!

[Besame]

You can press/mash any amount of keys and not just the buttons on your mouse during the active time event.

That being said, I agree that the fight overall was great and well-designed for the most part, except the tightness of the active time event. The active time event is feels almost as tight as Shinryu EXs. As a result, such a QTE is poor design for a normal/hard mode trial.

I didn't know pressing any keyboard button would work, ty for info. I still dread the button mash though so it was my first AND last clear hehe
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[Stepjam]

I would like to thank SE for once again, making me question why am I paying for this.

This is the MSQ, it is not ment to be so difficult. That is what the EX,Savage,etc are for.

As a serious question, how long did it take you to clear? How many wipes? QTE aside (because everyone generally agrees it was kinda annoying), I think there's nothing wrong with the fight. My group wiped like 5 or so times before we got our clear, and it felt perfectly fair.

As as serious question, is it "too hard" if you wipe multiple times? If maybe you took an entire lockout and had to requeue for it, I could understand you thinking it was too hard, but if you got a clear in under 45 minutes or so, is that really too hard?

[Saix027]

As a serious question, how long did it take you to clear? How many wipes? QTE aside (because everyone generally agrees it was kinda annoying), I think there's nothing wrong with the fight. My group wiped like 5 or so times before we got our clear, and it felt perfectly fair.

As as serious question, is it "too hard" if you wipe multiple times? If maybe you took an entire lockout and had to requeue for it, I could understand you thinking it was too hard, but if you got a clear in under 45 minutes or so, is that really too hard?

The problem is not such attemtps but how certain people leave right away, i had a group also and epxlained it to a friend, when he not failed someone else apperently did, repeated some few times, so people assumed someone did on purpose even. It is still content you do with random groups mostly, story related, the rest is totally fine i say, challanging and fair, the QTE is unnecessary punishing the whole group.

I not care here if people can do it or not but that the game often has severlags and issues, on top of people having DC or lags on there own, and this is a problem simply, one error should not wipe the whole group. But that is a theme anyway i fear, DC causing limit to go and such is the worst. Those are issues they should had considered, this is not the ex mode you prepare for every step, it is clear and challangin on its own but the QTE is just crap and already overdone anyway by this point.

It is not to hard but not clear for people, the way it goes down can irritate people on top as said severlags at worst and input delays that way. The main problem is people agian who know about it but not bother explain any.

[Tlamila]

I found it the easiest trial of the whole expansion tbh. I did it the first days, blind, and apart from 1 messed up mechanic in phase 2 we only wiped for the QTE, and I agree that one's a stupid mechanic and I have no clue why they keep putting it in, how it smashing your finger a fun mechanic?
Apart from that, I think it's an awesome fight, easy cause it has easy tells but never boring, I hope they don't change it.

[Absurdity]

Only nerf the fight needs is with the ATE gauge. They need to slow the speed at which it empties down a bit, I almost broke my space bar trying to keep it from dropping. Other then that I feel the fight is perfectly fine and more then passible for even a random group.

I am pretty sure that's because they messed up with the bar itself. It doesn't display your gauge but the whole group's gauge and if you're seeing it drop rapidly then that's because someone is twiddling their thumbs and not pressing anything, if everyone is mashing atleast one button that bar should be staying between 100 and 90% the whole 10 seconds. This is also why you can fail the QTE even though the bar is at like 50%, because 50% means someone didn't press anything and technically failed the thing.

[Stepjam]

I am pretty sure that's because they messed up with the bar itself. It doesn't display your gauge but the whole group's gauge and if you're seeing it drop rapidly then that's because someone is twiddling their thumbs and not pressing anything, if everyone is mashing atleast one button that bar should be staying between 100 and 90% the whole 10 seconds. This is also why you can fail the QTE even though the bar is at like 50%, because 50% means someone didn't press anything and technically failed the thing.

Is it confirmed that the bar is everyone's bar? Or are you just assuming that?
Because that's interesting if true, I never even thought of that.

[NanaWiloh]

Is it confirmed that the bar is everyone's bar? Or are you just assuming that?
Because that's interesting if true, I never even thought of that.

No everyone has their own separate bar. One of the times I did it my bar was at 30% or so and we still failed cause someone else let their bar run out. The only part of the mechanic that is shared by the group is the failure to complete it part.

[Sorimachi87]

Personally i still think the fight is fine despite struggling with it sometimes. Nothing should be handed to us on a silver plate and you should be challenged to a certain degree.
It is the final fight of the shadowbringers story after all.

[Vahlnir]

The only thing that I might agree that needs some addressing is the QTE, in that it should probably be just a bit more forgiving. Other than that the fight is fine as is. Not everything has to be easy. In the few times I've gone into it I've only seen people singing their praises. I've even seen people being thankful that the fight isn't braindead easy.