Hinting at New Jobs? [ Small Spoilers for Patch 5.3 ]

[Amnmaat]

The closest XIV equivalent I can think of a necromancer is....a thaumaturge. They already work with funeral rites and questionable-yet-not-inherently-evil magic using blood and void, plus there is an interesting abundance of zombies in Thanalan. That said, it still sounds a bit of a stretch



Yeah, I'm not familiar with any other FF game but berserker sounds eerily similar to WAR with the whole controlling the inner beast/rage and me smash going on. That said, I'd love a "heavy armor powerhouse" type DPS, it could share gear with DRG.

Exactly this, a slow melee, we don't have that. A hammer-based melee would be fun to use in my opinion. Slow GCD but heavy damage. Sam was supposed to be this but it's turning out to be one of the fastest/most complex dps melee jobs in the game. I'd like a BLM equivalent but melee.

[BasicBlake]

Necromancers doesn't have to be evil. In guild wars necromancers are essentially guides for the dead with knowledge of curses and diseases, so to say a necromancer in FFXIV could be something similar to conjurer and them asking the elements for power where the necromancer could be communing with the dead for assistance.

Necromancers in other games don't have to be evil, you have a point there.

But they aren't Final Fantasy or FFXIV. Every instance of necromancers brought up in this game has them as evil. Even this boss has a voice line about "I may be tainted but I am still a warrior of light!" I don't see Yoshi P and the team adding a "tainted" or evil aspected class at the forefront of the story about you being some great/good hero saving the world.

[Tsukino]

Talk to other Scions and say that again.

Alisaie: A Warrior who fights with potions...it's certainly innovative. I prefer a blade myself, but to each their own.

That does make it more interesting!

[Kahnom]

The Apotherapy fits to be new healer all right.

[GrimGale]

Clearly, the Miqote child is a hint at the Catmancer, a ranged dps that throws cats at the enemy.

Jokes aside I hope the apothecary turns out to be a more brutish healer, less graceful and sparkly and more sciency. A battle medic.

[Roda]

I wouldn't consider "Scientist" to be described as "brutish" :x

[MirronTulaxia]

Eh, not sure the "hints" are ones I agree with.

Apothecary: She explicitly does not want to fight. She wants to do something on the side. To me this reads as "you can help people even as a Crafter". Although it's certainly possible we can get Apothecary as a healer (maybe something along the lines of an Herbalist or whatever) it just seems like something of a stretch at this point. As for the "being a Warrior" and "fights" those read more metaphorical as opposed to literal. We certainly can get Apothecary or Chemist or whatever, but I don't feel it's anywhere near as direct a reference as Red Mage was.

Ink Mage: These are just Scholars/Summoners. They even use Ruin and a spell reminiscent of Broil (think it's called Flambe).

Thief/Necromancer/Berserker: These are all theoretically possible (I don't see any reason to toss Thief out but count the other two, so I'm lumping it in), but at the same time also feel somewhat like "we don't expect to fit these in so here's a little token show". Necromancer certainly stands out the most, and being a literal Warrior of Light certainly clears out any "well they can't do both" thing. Nor do I see skeletons as being a big issue (I don't think any Necromancers we have seen fought much with literal skeletons after all, so they could go with more fleshy zombies). But it's hard to say if it means much in the context. Maybe it's the next CDPS or Healer? It's certainly the strongest of the bunch but still.

Orange Soul Crystal: While certainly neat I don't expect it to be a hint at a new job, would just be a bit too tricky to fit in.

Trial Boss: Uh... maybe? I think the big issue is that it kind of leans towards a Tank (which we just got) or a Melee DPS (which is sitting at four), neither of which really fit. It could be a Caster I suppose (Healer would be harder to swing), but if it turns into anything I would imagine it being down the road. Would be a bit neat for sure. Honestly could see this tying into the Orange crystal more than anything else as a Limited thing.

[Fawkes]

She also has suncat eyes and mooncat fangs, maybe she's a hint at mixed clans.

[Hazama999]

A lot of the "hints" people put forth feel rather flimsy to me...
Eh... I honestly think there's really a lotta wishful thinking going on, with people hanging on to whatever inkling of the possibility of a tease.

[Cled-cat]

The only strong hint I feel is Chemist. The amount of blatant exposition on it in those cutscenes (and having other Scions validate it as a combat job, even if unconventional, like Alisae) really make it a much stronger hint than the rest. SE also know at this point we want a new healer, and there really isn’t any other DoW/DoM close enough to Chemist to overlap it’s themes. To those who think Chemist wouldn’t be appropriate because we have Alchemist, it’s like comparing a civilian scientist who works in a 9-5 job creating vaccines and working with Petri dishes to a seasoned combat medic, on the front lines and fighting to keep their team alive while also attacking the enemy; there’s no comparison. They both use medicinal items, but I’m drastically different applications and ways.

On to how there is actually much more problematic overlap to the other jobs shown. Berserker is literally Warrior in our world, what do you guys think the whole “Inner beast” is? Necromancer has always been portrayed consistently as very, very taboo, Black Magic doesn’t even come close to how taboo it is, and there’s been no sign of any real “good” Necromancers in our world so I doubt that it would suddenly become a good discipline for us to take up. The closest acceptable Necromancers we know of are the Thaumaturges, which anyone can become, but it uses no actual necromancy (due to the taboo nature of it I’m sure).

So to compare the new jobs to the ones in the source, Thief would likely be a job evolution of Rogue, Berserker is a variant of Warrior who’ve succumbed to the inner beast and Necromancer isn’t even close to being acceptable, so Thaumaturge is the closest they got. Yoshi-P also said he does NOT want to add new jobs that come from existing classes. So I feel when it comes to the new dungeon people are being very wishful and a bit biased in using the bosses of the new dungeon that are their favourite jobs as hints, but all in all I think the only hint that actually looks realistic so far is Chemist. Don’t get me wrong, I’d LOVE to play a Necromancer, but seeing just one scantily clad “Uwu I’m so tainted” boss represent it isn’t enough.