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  1. #28671
    Player
    ckq53's Avatar
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    Renri Yavrallal
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Had a lower level duty roulette (Darkhold, I believe) and the healer was not healing for beans and when he would take a hit it would nearly one shot him. I looked at his gear and it was all BROKEN! Every single piece! We asked him if he ever went to a gear mender after dungeons and he said "No, never". He didn't even know it was a thing. Needless to say that was a loooong dungeon run! How he made it that far I have no idea.
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  2. #28672
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    Nestama's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Wiped three times to E7N. So that was fun (people were having trouble with dark/light portals and not enough DPS for the DPS check).

    By the way, I've been noticing this a lot, but why have DNC's been automatically giving their Closed Position buff to melee DPS? Like, I'd understand it if the melee had higher HP and were consistently high on the aggro table, but to just drop it onto the first melee they see? who has lower HP than the MCH and RDM and KO's frequently? Did some DNC's read a guide that said "always give it to melee" or something?
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  3. #28673
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Tent In the Middle of Nowhere
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    Character
    Elan Centauri
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Wiped three times to E7N. So that was fun (people were having trouble with dark/light portals and not enough DPS for the DPS check).
    To be fair, it probably took me at least 8-9 clears (probably more) before actually starting to understand how the portals worked. For some reason my brain couldn't even for the longest time. I'm a quick learner, usually, but for whatever reason that fight threw my brain for one heck of a loop.
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  4. #28674
    Player Veis_Alveare's Avatar
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    Veis Alve'are
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    By the way, I've been noticing this a lot, but why have DNC's been automatically giving their Closed Position buff to melee DPS? Like, I'd understand it if the melee had higher HP and were consistently high on the aggro table, but to just drop it onto the first melee they see? who has lower HP than the MCH and RDM and KO's frequently? Did some DNC's read a guide that said "always give it to melee" or something?
    This is a pinned message in the #dnc_resources channel on the Balance.

    ClosedPosition DANCE PARTNER PRIORITY DNCending
    This list is made in a gear/skill vacuum. This is the recommended partner priority list. (Special Note: some fights may favor certain dance partners over others based on phases/mechanics or ability to hit multiple targets)


    1. SAM
    2. MNK
    3. NIN
    4. SMN / BLM
    5. DRG / RDM
    6. MCH
    7. BRD
    8. DNC
    I tend to stick to this myself in normal mode things. For a while I was looking at HP but by now people have geared full i490 just off of tomes so it's less of a big indicator. If I see an edenchoir weapon I'll likely go with that person instead.
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    Last edited by Veis_Alveare; 08-04-2020 at 02:14 PM.

  5. #28675
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    Dreamsoap's Avatar
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    Character
    Jye Greene
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    Malboro
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 60
    Managed to clear memoria misera again after some like 6 months with the FC. Thanks rando whm/sch for subbing in, you were great!
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  6. #28676
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    Nestama's Avatar
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    This is a pinned message in the #dnc_resources channel on the Balance.



    I tend to stick to this myself in normal mode things. For a while I was looking at HP but by now people have geared full i480 just off of tomes so it's less of a big indicator. If I see an edenchoir weapon I'll likely go with that person instead.
    Oh okay, that makes sense... if gear/skill was a factor.
    Sadly, this DNC just automatically Closed Position'd the first SAM they saw (and the DNC in my E6N run some days ago kept the loldrg as their Dance Partner). First SAM I was alright with, since they had more HP than me (though I was still higher on the aggro table), but when that SAM "DC'd" and was removed, we got a new SAM who had 10k less HP than me, KO'd a lot and yet they still got the Closed Position buff

    It's a silly thing to be annoyed by, I know.
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  7. #28677
    Player Veis_Alveare's Avatar
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    Veis Alve'are
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Oh okay, that makes sense... if gear/skill was a factor.
    Sadly, this DNC just automatically Closed Position'd the first SAM they saw (and the DNC in my E6N run some days ago kept the loldrg as their Dance Partner). First SAM I was alright with, since they had more HP than me (though I was still higher on the aggro table), but when that SAM "DC'd" and was removed, we got a new SAM who had 10k less HP than me, KO'd a lot and yet they still got the Closed Position buff

    It's a silly thing to be annoyed by, I know.
    Eh, I hear you though. I've been doing normal modes on jobs I don't play just to use them as like a training dummy of sorts before attempting anything like EX+ with them and it can be rough.

    My favorite time was when I got e1n in normal raid roulette as DRG. My dragon sight macro went on a tank on accident and I felt so stupid, also frustrated that I didn't get closed position (it was on a BRD and they had the same last name so) but then all 3 dps stacked their puddles together and died so I was the only one alive.

    Ahh, vindication.

    (Also I meant i490 not i480, am dum)
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  8. #28678
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    gumas's Avatar
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    Character
    Rawon Special
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    doing DF leveling and got me into very early dungeon (copperbell mines), excluding me everyone is still sprout and they all doing fine... except this one tank who end up kick me out from party (by vote)

    reason? because i didnt do any aoe when he pull everything (other dps is BRD who can do his aoe quick knock), i keep telling him that i cant do any aoe because my first aoe is only available at level 26 (sam here) and this dungeon is level 17 so i cant do it.

    he didnt buy it, he keep telling me that iam that typical lazy player who just do 123 combo because this is "newbie" dungeon etc. i retaliate by saying that if you dont believe me, when this dungeon is over, go change to sam and check the level available for "fuga" skill (sam first aoe skill), and guess what?

    "good, you dont need to wait that long" and he vote kick me, and everyone just agree...

    good christ sometimes i just want to angry but this is absurd lol
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  9. #28679
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    Driavna's Avatar
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    Elara Almasombria
    World
    Sagittarius
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by gumas View Post
    doing DF leveling and got me into very early dungeon (copperbell mines), excluding me everyone is still sprout and they all doing fine... except this one tank who end up kick me out from party (by vote)

    reason? because i didnt do any aoe when he pull everything (other dps is BRD who can do his aoe quick knock), i keep telling him that i cant do any aoe because my first aoe is only available at level 26 (sam here) and this dungeon is level 17 so i cant do it.

    he didnt buy it, he keep telling me that iam that typical lazy player who just do 123 combo because this is "newbie" dungeon etc. i retaliate by saying that if you dont believe me, when this dungeon is over, go change to sam and check the level available for "fuga" skill (sam first aoe skill), and guess what?

    "good, you dont need to wait that long" and he vote kick me, and everyone just agree...

    good christ sometimes i just want to angry but this is absurd lol
    Remember that you can link FFXIV official job guide: https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/samurai/

    Anyway, If that conversation happened as you stated will be one of those few occasions I will be bothered to report another player. Their stupidy need to catch up with them.
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    Last edited by Driavna; 08-04-2020 at 09:13 PM.

  10. #28680
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    Character
    Mikayla Rainstone
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Kinda annoying Labyrinth run. I was tanking on GNB, ended up in alliance A.

    On the undead dragon boss, B tank grabs boss aggro and stays in middle. I provoke off them and run to the proper position. C tank has the same idea and ends up tanking most of the fight.

    The Atomos trash fight went surprisingly well, with no one running in way too early as happens about half the time.

    On the ghost boss (forgot the name) we got all the way to alliance C getting their turn, which is a sign of poor DPS.

    In the bomb trash fight B tank goes to the usual A spot so I go to the B spot. Adds don't get killed (not enough of them anyway) and we wipe. Second try is much smoother, with correct spots and everything, although B tank rushes in and temporarily gets aggro from the A mob before I can pull it back.

    Behemoth went largely fine. I grabbed aggro from the iron giant in order to prevent it from smashing comets, but in the process lost sight of where the comets were and died to the giant meteor. On the third meteor I think we only had one comet up, but the fight also ends just as the meteor lands.

    On Phlegethon we get second ancient flare around 10%. That clearly is not enough DPS to kill it before the flare goes off, but apparently most people think it is and we wipe. On second try we have better DPS and the boss dies just as the second flare is about to go off, although enough people run away to get the shield up. Someone comments "running at 3%, really?" Yes really, I'd rather spend a few more seconds getting through the mechanic than risk taking a third try.
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