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  1. #28631
    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Eureka Orthos
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Speaking of Eden Titan, I was doing that one yesterday to get the materials for a Deepshadow weapon, and...

    I was healing with my partner, and somehow every single DPS died at least 4-5 times. We didn't wipe, but there was always at least one DPS dead because they refused to learn the mechanics after dying the first time. There was a few points when it was just us and the tanks, despite our best efforts to keep the DPS alive (turns out you can't heal through one-shots, who knew). I mentioned as it ended that I'd never seen so many DPS die in that fight, and one of the tanks quickly spat out a line about a healer complaining about doing their job before quickly running out of the duty before I even had time to read what they said. I wasn't even complaining, I was just stating an observation. And it wasn't even about them! Talk about sensitive.
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  2. #28632
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    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Mar 2018
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    Gridania
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    Alaha Vellonnu
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Just got out of a roulette on an alt where I was on MCH. I got thrown into Sirensong Sea. Rest of party comp was WAR, WHM, and BLM.

    WAR was clearly new, so I gave him a heads up about mechanics, even though he mass pulled. WHM was on top of their game for keeping the newbie tank alive, though they could've pushed more Holies, which is fine.

    This BLM...

    -Was 79, but still a sprout, I'm currently unsure if they were a booster.
    -Was not using AoEs save for Thunder 2.
    -Dropped their Ley Lines in the worst spots.
    -Would almost rely on Fire 4, Blizzard 4, and Transpose throughout the entire dungeon, though that barely did anything for them. I maybe saw the occasional hardcast of Fire 3.
    -I heard Enochian recasted a grand total of 19 times the entire dungeon.

    I had to LB the big pull after the second boss since I realized the BLM was pretty much not going to contribute to aoe'ing at all. At least they did their job quests, so there's that. Last boss took longer than expected since a quarter of the fight the BLM was just not...really doing much other than letting their stacks run out.

    I got two comms out of it though, and I don't know from who.
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    This one is beyond your help. Only sleep can save her now.

  3. #28633
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    Ilenya's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Aurora Vlondett
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    Sounds like someone didn't read his job skills. BLM in particular seems to have an issue where some people don't realize you shouldn't just work up the number order for doing damage. There have been many many stories about similar things, and I'm not sure if it's just a lack of understanding or a lack of caring.
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  4. #28634
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    astercantus's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Aster Blackwind
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ilenya View Post
    Sounds like someone didn't read his job skills. BLM in particular seems to have an issue where some people don't realize you shouldn't just work up the number order for doing damage. There have been many many stories about similar things, and I'm not sure if it's just a lack of understanding or a lack of caring.
    remember seeing a couple of BLMs (one at 50+, another at 60+ god forbid) whose rotation consisted of hardcasting Fire III and then Blizz III whenever they ran out of MP...big yikes
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  5. #28635
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    CressSiren's Avatar
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    Cress Wildbloom
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Miner Lv 80
    While not exactly a story, more like an admission, a few months ago was me coming from like a year and a half long hiatus or something like that. Decided to throw my lv70 BLM in to leveling roulette and didn't read up on what changed between the middle of Stormblood to 5.2. Was in Doma Castle, and I apologize to the party that I got grouped with, since I was using the outdated AoE rotation of Fire 2 and Thunder 4s. Didn't know Freeze had gotten a buff the way it had.

    For anyone returning, please learn from my mistakes: Read your tooltips before you run in to content.
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  6. #28636
    Player
    Ilenya's Avatar
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    Aurora Vlondett
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CressSiren View Post
    While not exactly a story, more like an admission, a few months ago was me coming from like a year and a half long hiatus or something like that. Decided to throw my lv70 BLM in to leveling roulette and didn't read up on what changed between the middle of Stormblood to 5.2. Was in Doma Castle, and I apologize to the party that I got grouped with, since I was using the outdated AoE rotation of Fire 2 and Thunder 4s. Didn't know Freeze had gotten a buff the way it had.

    For anyone returning, please learn from my mistakes: Read your tooltips before you run in to content.
    Let's be honest, Freeze is probably on the list of the single best buffed skill in the game, since it was mostly a joke skill until recently. Anyone who knew the old one but didn't check for changes would be in the same situation you are, and I do hope the people you were with let you know about the changes.
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  7. #28637
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    CressSiren's Avatar
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    Cress Wildbloom
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Miner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ilenya View Post
    Let's be honest, Freeze is probably on the list of the single best buffed skill in the game, since it was mostly a joke skill until recently. Anyone who knew the old one but didn't check for changes would be in the same situation you are, and I do hope the people you were with let you know about the changes.
    Other than the monk, at the end of the dungeon, saying that it might help to check a guide and work a better rotation, when the dungeon ended. I did, however, inform my party at the start of the dungeon that I had just started the game back between expansions so my BLM knowledge wasn't up to date, lol. The group was patient, no wipes, just a little slower than what it could've been.
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  8. #28638
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    KaleShibata's Avatar
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    Kyzunro Shibata
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by CressSiren View Post
    While not exactly a story, more like an admission, a few months ago was me coming from like a year and a half long hiatus or something like that. Decided to throw my lv70 BLM in to leveling roulette and didn't read up on what changed between the middle of Stormblood to 5.2. Was in Doma Castle, and I apologize to the party that I got grouped with, since I was using the outdated AoE rotation of Fire 2 and Thunder 4s. Didn't know Freeze had gotten a buff the way it had.

    For anyone returning, please learn from my mistakes: Read your tooltips before you run in to content.
    I had spaced on that some pages back when talking about aoe rotations on blm. and I've played since the better part of the end of SB expansion before shb and got blm to 80 constantly forgetting that so it can very easily happen.

    Now if we could just remove blizzard 2 from the game as its entirely worthless...better yet why not just make blizzard 2 the new Freeze and save us the trouble of looking at the worthless skill blizzard 2 is?
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  9. #28639
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    Nestama's Avatar
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Got E6N today in roulette. We wiped three times and the final attempt took around 15 or something minutes. During the third wipe run, I get KO'd due to no one taking on of the tethers off of me and I start to notice how some players are playing.

    There was a DRG using their AoE rotation... and not even the full AoE rotation (never used Coerthan Torment). I looked at the battle log in-game and saw what they were doing: True Thrust, Disembowel, Doom Spike, Sonic Thrust, Doom Spike, Sonic Thrust, etc. I called them out asking why they were using their AoE rotation, but no response (to add insult to injury, DNC Closed Positioned them and never changed). I'm not sure what the OT was doing, but I'm pretty sure I saw some Fast Blade spams happening.

    I should have just left after seeing that... but I had raid and I didn't want to have a penalty during raid again.
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  10. #28640
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    Driavna's Avatar
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Sagittarius
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Got E6N today in roulette. We wiped three times and the final attempt took around 15 or something minutes. During the third wipe run, I get KO'd due to no one taking on of the tethers off of me and I start to notice how some players are playing.

    There was a DRG using their AoE rotation... and not even the full AoE rotation (never used Coerthan Torment). I looked at the battle log in-game and saw what they were doing: True Thrust, Disembowel, Doom Spike, Sonic Thrust, Doom Spike, Sonic Thrust, etc. I called them out asking why they were using their AoE rotation, but no response (to add insult to injury, DNC Closed Positioned them and never changed). I'm not sure what the OT was doing, but I'm pretty sure I saw some Fast Blade spams happening.

    I should have just left after seeing that... but I had raid and I didn't want to have a penalty during raid again.
    It's going to get "worst" for a month or so. Always happens with new expansion or major content releases.
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