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  1. #28561
    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    Diabolos
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kleeya View Post
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    I mean, you say aggro isn't an indicator of DPS, but then went on to say that WARs can get more aggro by getting direct hits and crits, aka more damage.

    But no, I didn't switch to DPS adds or anything like that because I was stunned from being targeted with Chaotic Strike and couldn't perform a single action for a whole minute. Even after it ended (because no one broke me out of it), I still had more aggro than everyone but the MT.

    DPS generates aggro. I was using Malefic in between Helios or Aspected Helios, but I rarely had to heal. If everyone was using their skills (which they were, because they were also too busy to break people out of Chaotic Strike), they should've generated more aggro than me even before I was stuck because I hardly needed to heal at all and literally every DPS should be about to out-DPS an AST. Then it's like I just got up and walked away for ~60 seconds and came back to still having the 2nd highest amount of aggro. I couldn't perform a single skill, action, or even move. Under normal circumstances everyone should've bumped me back to the bottom after a full minute of inaction.

    To compare, in past duties when I was playing as SAM, I could die, lose all my aggro, get raised, then start DPSing again and at least reach 4th or 5th highest by the end of the fight. Because DPS generates aggro. I never said it's a measure of how good someone is, but it is somewhat of a good gauge for how much damage a DPS player is doing. That's how tanks would actually lose aggro before ShB if someone was doing a lot of damage and the tank wasn't doing a good job of keeping aggro.

    So, to summarize, there's no logical reason why an AST would have the second highest amount of aggro in a fight, especially when 90% of their aggro is from damage, and especially with a bunch of hard-hitting DPS present. Unless they were doing jack all.
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  2. #28562
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    DarkMasamune's Avatar
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    Nevah Eliath
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    Alpha
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Ended up on Neverreap with my BLK. Was ready to do this and all and when I did the first pull, I was like hey, why can't I keep aggro ? Gosh this is a tad annoying.

    And then I noticed I got bamboozled by the sync. I had just done a dungeon and god knows why, I thought I still had my stance on. Oops !

    A little bit embarrassing, but still funny, mistakes happen, haha
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  3. #28563
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    Rilifane's Avatar
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    Unless they were doing jack all.
    Welcome to trial roulette.
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  4. #28564
    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    Diabolos
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rilifane View Post
    Welcome to trial roulette.
    Welcome to most duties these days, for some reason. Maybe it's the content drought because of the longer wait between patches, but my goodness people are playing poorly lately. I don't expect perfection. It's not required in like 90% of content. But I feel like they could put a tad more effort into it. I posted earlier in this thread that I met a DRG in Orbonne that complained about not wanting to do it again, implying they've done it before and therefore implying they knew how to do the fights in it, and I repeatedly saw them fail mechanics. Not even that they didn't bother to do them, but that they appeared to not know. And upon being told, they continued to be clueless.

    Normally the collective competency of a group is enough to get by with little trouble, but for the past month-ish? It's like only the bottom of the barrel is playing.
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  5. #28565
    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    These days I had one of THOSE orbonne runs, wipes at Cid included... one member of our party always stayed at the other group, was fun healing it. After pulling her 2x with Rescue (after which she imidiatly run back) i just left her dead lol...
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  6. #28566
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    Quintessa's Avatar
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    Saturn Vitrell
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    Famfrit
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    Marauder Lv 18
    Just people on alts trolling..
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  7. #28567
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    Driavna's Avatar
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Sagittarius
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    I joined a PF party to farm Memoria Misera Extreme. Sadly, got disbanded without a warning or giving the option to someone else to take the lead. Funny thing is: one of the players there decided to whisper me "rude" and blacklisted me right away.

    How do I know I got blacklisted? For two things:

    - I responded: "true. But I was not the party leader." Got no response to that.

    - This player created another PF and I could not join: "Failed to join the PF".

    I got so salty that I had to make an alt and, in a polite way of course, inform this person of his mistake. <- Don't do this.
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    Last edited by Driavna; 07-27-2020 at 08:06 PM.

  8. #28568
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    I joined a PF party to farm Memoria Misera Extreme. Sadly, got disbanded without a warning or giving the option to someone else to take the lead. Funny thing is: one of the players there decided to whisper me "rude" and blacklisted me right away.

    How do I know I got blacklisted? For two things:

    - I responded: true. But I was not the party leader. Got no response to that.

    - This player created another PF and I could not join "Failed to join the PF".
    Sounds like a typical elitist who didn't like how much DPS you were putting out or noticed some other perceived "flaw".
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  9. #28569
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    Driavna's Avatar
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Sagittarius
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Sounds like a typical elitist who didn't like how much DPS you were putting out or noticed some other perceived "flaw".
    Don't think so. We never went inside as a party. PL disbanded after almost being full.
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  10. #28570
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Unless the guy was looking at your FFLogs records, then yeah, I don't know why they'd do that.
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