Advertising sexual content in party finder

[Driavna]

And that's why there is a Terms of Service. That I mentioned in a previous post. This is not an excuse, because XIV has its own way of moderating this kind of language. Ask a GM, they'll tell you openly advertising sex to players is reportable. It's like- oh right no one reads the TOS ever.

I will bring this up:

What is your official stance on player-run “brothels,” wherein two consenting players have cybersex in exchange for in-game currency? [This was a contentious question, and one that Yoshida seemed blindsided by. -Ed]

Yoshida: First of all, there is a user agreement that all players have to agree to before they can even start playing Final Fantasy XIV. Within that user agreement is a clause that prohibits any unacceptable conduct to this end, including behavior that infringes upon laws. Any players who violate those rules will be punished by banning or other penalties. This applies no matter which end of the exchange a player is on. Everyone who plays Final Fantasy XIV is subject to investigation for violating the terms of service, period. Because Final Fantasy XIV is a worldwide game, there is the potential for players from many different regions to interact with one another, and we have legal support available to assist us in investigations to this end in many countries. If you see someone engaging in this type of behavior, we ask you to report it.

Right now SE ignore it, after all, they will lose a lot of clients if they did something about it. But if at some point this stuff bring bad press to them, SE will be force to nuke it. So, from an "auto-preservation" stand point, the whole ERP community its the first one interested that no one uses PF to announce anything.

And to be honest, as Gula pointed out, FFXIV has quite a few horror stories already.

[Zsolen]

Exactly, the ERP community needs to hold itself responsible and put a stop to the advertising in game before SE does step in. They need to make sure they are dealing with adults. It will hurt them, SE, the player base in general, and most importantly minors, if the ERP community refuses to do so. If you are an ERPer and have good intentions, then you need to know that pedophiles while use any avenue available to take advantage of minors. You also need to protect yourselves by not accidentally getting a minor involved without knowing.

[RareItems]

They'll go away after patch 5.3 hits, then slowly creep back up xD

[ForteNightshade]

Just read the thread. This involves advertising to minors as well as the population as a whole. That can shut the game down very easily in the US and for good reason.

No, it cannot. That is precisely why they put that warning there. The responsibility from that point onward falls entirely on the parents to monitor. An equivalent would be allowing a fourteen year old to play a M rated game and then complaining about its sexual or violent content. Square Enix could only get in trouble if they released content themselves or allow things that alter their content in a way which violates the ToS. Nude mods would be an example of the latter.

It's not 18+

XIV is T for Teen. Let me show you the ToS you probably skipped over, but not to worry, everyone does it.

"3.3 Profanity and Offensive Language. You may not use profanity or any language that a reasonable person would find offensive. The Game is for players aged 13 and older. You agree to behave accordingly."

Highlighted are the weasel words. That statement is entirely subjective as people have very different thresholds on what they find offensive. It essentially covers racial slurs and extreme language but leaves everything else open. In other words, it's lawyer speak. You aren't going to get in trouble for swearing in general but could at their own discretion.

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

No, it cannot. That is precisely why they put that warning there. The responsibility from that point onward falls entirely on the parents to monitor. An equivalent would be allowing a fourteen year old to play a M rated game and then complaining about its sexual or violent content. Square Enix could only get in trouble if they released content themselves or allow things that alter their content in a way which violates the ToS. Nude mods would be an example of the latter.

Exactly this. SE won't get into trouble for this. Bad press? Sure. But they've legally covered their behinds, as a company should do. It's up to parents of minors to monitor their children. SE isn't a babysitter. They're a company. If you see content in party finder that's not okay, report it. Then they can deal with it. To hire someone to log in and look at all active party finders on ever server would be costly and not worth the effort when they could simply check reports they get in, instead.

[SigmaOZ]

The Party Finder is full of trash advertisements and I don't mean sexual content only but RMT disguised as raiding or any other content, Square Enix should punish those users and ban them according to their faults.

[xxvaynxx]

All these "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" people in here.
I mean...its the parents fault if they have a problem with it, for letting their teen play a game where they can encounter a bunch of different types of people of different age group. Not SE's.

Though I do think people shouldn't be looking for erp in party finder. There are a BUNCH of third party things you can use to find it...or just stand around in quicksand on balmung like everybody else.

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

All these "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" people in here.
I mean...its the parents fault if they have a problem with it, for letting their teen play a game where they can encounter a bunch of different types of people of different age group. Not SE's.

Though I do think people shouldn't be looking for erp in party finder. There are a BUNCH of third party things you can use to find it...or just stand around in quicksand on balmung like everybody else.

I agree 110% with this statement.

[SturmChurro]

Just because something's 18+ doesn't mean it's going to have naughty stuff going on in it. Many of us just want to talk to mature people.

Not all of the advertising clubs are brothels either. I visited one last week that was literally just a club floor with people dancing (in clothes!), music, and fun.

The only thing out of hand is the people who make like ten different PFs for the same club. SERIOUSLY YOU JUST NEED ONE YOU'RE ANNOYING MORE PEOPLE THAT YOU COULD'VE GOTTEN.

It also doesn't help that there's been some drama that caused rifts to open and people split to make new ones, so that makes more.

Honestly, if you don't like it, don't go to them. If you don't want to see them in PF, use the individual tabs so you can filter what you're looking for. If you should be calling out anything in PF, call out the people who sell clears for real money.

Well, a lot of those people are actually using mods. So they might look like they are in clothes on your screen..

I've seen those creeps asking for feet pics. Not only is this nasty, it's a gateway to much worse. Nasty!

Considering our feet in this game barely even have toes, they were probably just making a joke.

[Ursa_Vonfiebryd]

Players advertising sexual content so flagrantly in PF is out of hand in Aether.
Tagging anything as 18+ in this game does nothing to prevent children from accessing it and square enix is liable for protecting children. Further more actually advertising brothels? why is this normal?
It is absolutely ridiculous that you have to fill out individual tickets if you were to report this. Nintendo famously closed down it's letter box service due to child predators taking advantage of it, yet here we are with players expected to take responsibility here and report this behaviour.
It's gone beyond closed doors here and it's time for Square Enix to actually be accountable for this and take action against players flagrantly abusing the terms of service

I'm creating this thread so the feedback gets passed along to a community rep. I don't care to personally read replies

Is this about the person selling irl feet pics? Because that just makes me laugh. As long as that and all the RP cafe entries aren't mislabling, I'm fine with them, honestly. I'm not fine with content sellers taking over the main tags.